Spain - Customs - Help!

Order counter order and confusion.....

OK. We stayed in Marina Port Vell over the winter and the Marina organised a presentation about the Matriculation Tax for us, as the local authorities had started to stop some foreign flagged boats and chasing them for the tax. The accountants who gave the presentation and answered questions were pretty clear on what the situation is:

Your boat can stay in Spanish waters as long as you want to leave it there without any liability to the tax.

The tax becomes payable if you spend more than 183 days per calander year in Spain. Note that the 'you' here is the person in charge of the boat at the time the authorities challenge you - not necessarily the owner of the boat. You will also, as part of the process, have to flag your boat as Spanish, with all that that entails.

The tax is 12% of the value ascribed to it by the local customs offices. The advice of the accountants is that for boats over 'few years' old, this would be a fraction of the market value.

That's the simple case dealt with! Now for the slightly more complicated bit. If you are setting up residence in Spain, you can 'import' your boat as part of your household and you are, according to the accountants, exempt from the tax but you will have to register the boat under Spanish flag. You have a short window to do this as part of taking up residence in Spain, about 30 days from starting the residency process. All of this is a hangover from pre EU days in Spain, where boats had a 28% tax on them: VAT was introduced and the lost income to the state was replaced by the Matriculation tax of 12%. Pre EU, if you were setting up home in Spain you could import all your household goods without paying Spanish tax as a one off concession on arrival - that's where the exemption comes from.

This is all, I'm afraid, prefectly legal under EU law, as there is no barrier to the movement of goods, rather a charge for owning a boat in Spain, which they're perfectly entitled to do if they want to (see Greek tax threads!). The fact that the UK does not wish to go down this route (at the moment) doesn't mean that other governments can't do it.

All that said, the implementation of the law seems to be very much on a case by case basis and relates more to how the local office is dealing with cases at the moment. Bottom line is if you don't want to be liable for the tax, don't spend more than 183 days per year in Spain! (Keep your boarding cards from flights home if you're worried about proving you've been out of the country; they provide enough evidence of travel especially as all Spanish ones have your passport no on them.)

Hope that helps.
 
Yes. The fact is that if you spend more than 183 days per calender year (some countries) per tax year (other countries) or in 365 days (yet others) you become tax resident in that country.

There is, however, no means of tracking this. So the authorities, if they suspect you spend a lot of time in their country, are perfectly entitled to assume you are a tax resdent unless you prove otherwise.

Tax residents have to meet local requirements - driving licences, car registration requirements, etc etc.

Note that the start of this thread is very old. There have been many more recent threads on this subject.
 
OK. We stayed in Marina Port Vell over the winter and the Marina organised a presentation about the Matriculation Tax for us, as the local authorities had started to stop some foreign flagged boats and chasing them for the tax. The accountants who gave the presentation and answered questions were pretty clear on what the situation is:

Your boat can stay in Spanish waters as long as you want to leave it there without any liability to the tax.

The tax becomes payable if you spend more than 183 days per calander year in Spain. Note that the 'you' here is the person in charge of the boat at the time the authorities challenge you - not necessarily the owner of the boat. You will also, as part of the process, have to flag your boat as Spanish, with all that that entails.

The tax is 12% of the value ascribed to it by the local customs offices. The advice of the accountants is that for boats over 'few years' old, this would be a fraction of the market value.

That's the simple case dealt with! Now for the slightly more complicated bit. If you are setting up residence in Spain, you can 'import' your boat as part of your household and you are, according to the accountants, exempt from the tax but you will have to register the boat under Spanish flag. You have a short window to do this as part of taking up residence in Spain, about 30 days from starting the residency process. All of this is a hangover from pre EU days in Spain, where boats had a 28% tax on them: VAT was introduced and the lost income to the state was replaced by the Matriculation tax of 12%. Pre EU, if you were setting up home in Spain you could import all your household goods without paying Spanish tax as a one off concession on arrival - that's where the exemption comes from.

This is all, I'm afraid, prefectly legal under EU law, as there is no barrier to the movement of goods, rather a charge for owning a boat in Spain, which they're perfectly entitled to do if they want to (see Greek tax threads!). The fact that the UK does not wish to go down this route (at the moment) doesn't mean that other governments can't do it.

All that said, the implementation of the law seems to be very much on a case by case basis and relates more to how the local office is dealing with cases at the moment. Bottom line is if you don't want to be liable for the tax, don't spend more than 183 days per year in Spain! (Keep your boarding cards from flights home if you're worried about proving you've been out of the country; they provide enough evidence of travel especially as all Spanish ones have your passport no on them.)

Hope that helps.

I guess that would be Alex Chumillas:

http://www.barcelonataxlaw.es/Spanish_tax.pdf
 
>There is, however, no means of tracking this.

The problem in Spain is most (all?) marinas are owned by the government. Thus the govermment has full access to your length of stay and not just one marina.
 
>The problem in Spain is most (all?) marinas are owned by the government. Thus the govermment has full access to your length of stay and not just one marina.

It's the length of stay of the person in charge of the vessel that matters, not the vessel itself.

My vessel has been in an Iberian marina for about 10 months, but as I have been in the UK for more than half that time the Sportuguese can go whistle for their tax.
 
Less than 183 days no problems and even if you stay more than that you do not necessarily become resident as other tests apply, such as ownership of property and centre of interest. Those are looked at if more than one EU country considers you to be resident, as you cannot be liable in more than one.
 
James,

I think you'll find, like it of not, there are no exceptions (within the EU) to the fact you become tax resident in any country if you personally spend more 183 days a year there. Check the HMRC web site. It is also possible to be tax resident in two countries at a time - for instance, if you have a taxable business in one, and spend time in another. I'm a tax resident in UK (days spent there), also in Greece (where I have business).

Running a business from an establishment in Spain will make you a tax resident, however little time you spend there. Hobby sailmakers with sewing machine on board, watch out!
 
Hi Jim,

What I was referring to is this:

Residence Under Tax Conventions
In all agreements signed by Spain, reference
is made to each country's internal legislation
when defining an individual's country of
residence. Given that different countries may
have different criteria in this respect, an
individual may occasionally be deemed to be
a resident of two countries.
In such cases, the agreements stipulate the
following general criteria to avoid this possibility
of an individual being deemed to be a resident
of two countries:
• The individual shall be deemed to be a
resident of the country in which he/she has
a permanent home.
• If he/she has a permanent home in both
countries, he/she shall be deemed to be a
resident of the country with which he/she
has the closest personal and economic ties
(centre of vital interests).
• If the situation cannot be determined in this
way, he/she shall be deemed to be a resident
of the country in which he/she usually lives.
• If he/she habitually lives in both countries
or neither of them, he/she shall be deemed
to be a resident of the country whose
nationality he/she holds.
• Finally, if he/she is a national of both
countries or neither of them, the competent
authorities shall endeavour to settle the
question by mutual agreement.

I take your point about carrying out any business activity.
 
Appreciating this is a recently revived thread - it is also worth noting the implications for regulation of changing the flag of your vessel. The restrictions /requirements on anything from fire extinguishers to flares vary from one country to another and if your vessel is flagged in that country itmust comply with those requirements. Many of us on here are used to the very unregulated UK scenario, which does not apply in most other countries. before reflagging your vessel, examine those requirements.
 
Appreciating this is a recently revived thread - it is also worth noting the implications for regulation of changing the flag of your vessel. The restrictions /requirements on anything from fire extinguishers to flares vary from one country to another and if your vessel is flagged in that country itmust comply with those requirements. Many of us on here are used to the very unregulated UK scenario, which does not apply in most other countries. before reflagging your vessel, examine those requirements.

Well done, you have brought up a VERY valid set of points. :)
 
. . . . The problem in Spain is most (all?) marinas are owned by the government. Thus the govermment has full access to your length of stay and not just one marina.

Spain has one of the best marine surveillance systems in place, in the world today called SIVE (Integrated System of External Vigilance) ! It has been operational for at least 6 years and the control room is located on the south coast at Algeciras.

They track every ship, yacht, fishing vessel and motorboat movement throughout their coastal sea area and it is centrally maintained 24 hours a day:

http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?id=605

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2835465,00.html

http://migrantsatsea.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/spain-adds-new-sive-radar-stations/
 
How SIVE Works

The key principles in the design of SIVE are early detection and central command. It is the investment in technology guided by these two principles that sets SIVE apart from mere patrolling. The Guardia Civil, a joint military and civilian police force, operates SIVE.

The system's functions can be summarized in the following steps:

1. A small boat with migrants on board approaches the coast.
2. A system of fixed and mobile sensors (radars, infrared cameras, and video cameras) detects the vessel 10 to 25 kilometers from the shore.
3. The control center is alerted and can follow the vessel by remote control of the sensors. At a distance of approximately 5 kilometers from the coast, it is possible to estimate the number of people on board.
4. The vessel's course and time of arrival are estimated.
5. One or more interception units (boats, helicopters, and cars) are deployed in order to intercept the vessel close to the shore.
6. The passengers are apprehended and brought to a reception center.


Check out 3. :eek:

I remember being a guest on the bridge of an old Warship and using the fixed mount binoculars. The clarity and range was absolutely astonishing.
 
Whats 9/11 got to do with yachts

How do you sail a westerly centaur into the 82 floor of a skyscraper.

Is about extortion of money

All of it completely out of compliance with EU policy which the thieving government seem free to ignore

Even the liar Blairs government don't behave like this

Frail economies and potentially frail ones historically behave draconically when they percieve sources of extra revenue. Nothing new.
 
As the original perpetrator of this ancient thread, let me tell you what we did.
a) Moved to Gibraltar pdq

Regulars will know that this IESDMT Spanish 'means of transport importation tax' topic has been aired on YBW countless times since my first posting over four years ago. Whether there has been more light than heat shed on it, is debatable. There certainly has been some heat.

Outside of all of the informed - and misinformed - opinion, gossip and advice, I wonder what the actual practical real-life current situation on the ground (water) is?

Four years ago this tax - as specifically applied to liveaboard cruising (slowly) yotties - was not well known - I would go so far as to say, it was unknown. This is not quite the same as knowing, as any fool would, that staying permanently (define) in another country means paying that country's taxes. Living aboard in Spanish waters (for more than this 183 days, but not necessary permanently) - or any other Mediterranean/EU country - used to be almost the very essence of Selling Up and Sailing.

[BTW The tax was on the statute books long before the current Spanish economic woes set in. Following my original posting I discovered that it had indeed been applied in a boating situation before 2006, but extremely rarely and then in circumstances of rather obvious (commercial, charter) transgression/tax avoidance. 2006 seems to have marked the beginning of the Aduana crackdown, if you care to call it that. AFAIK the IESDMT tax (to call it Matriculation is a widespread misnomer) in its precise form is a Spanish original and it is not an 'EU tax']

[BTW 2 - One of the high speed SIVE pursuit craft tied up in our marina one night for a few hours. Like a floating stealth bomber. Scary and beautiful. AKAIK it is not true to say that most Spanish marinas are government owned, even if one means 'regional government'. That said, marinas, public or private, receive regular weekly (?) visits from the Aduana who collect reports/lists of boats present in the marina - not necessarily of people/owners actually aboard. ]
 
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Because I hope to move to Spain as a resident shortly I have spent some time making 'official' enquires via several different Spanish legal firms on the legislation regarding my boat - you can find the results here if you want.

http://www.michaelbriant.com/spain_boat_rules.htm

My opinion now is that it is very important to follow the letter of Spanish Law when it comes to registration of your boat if you are a resident and if you do stay more than 183 days in any 12 month period then you are indeed a Spanish Resident!

With the serious problems Spain is facing they will make certain that all possible loopholes to tax evasion/avoidance are closed. I think you now must obtain the exemptions required and probably to re-flag. I suspect that the table of equivalent qualifications I list on the web page will suffice but of course taking the Spanish Exams is the final solution. If Spanish Customs/Police are anything like French and Netherlands counterparts it is the 'tax and registration' that they are interested in rather than the qualifications but remember that the Guardia Civil are now required to be self financing via the fines they impose I have no doubt that the customs and other police type departments will soon also have the same requirement so if you break the law expect the maximum fine...

To be fair to the Spanish most of their requirements are similar to the French and Netherlands and having been resident in both countries with a boat I know that eventually you will have conform to their legislation... Like it or not!

Michael
 
more details

I have copied the most important parts from my web site and they are as follows:-

You will be liable for the annual Tarifa G-5 tax which is effectively a tax on having a boat and varies with the power of the engine and the size of the boat. Bit like the old 'light dues'. - exactly the same tax exists in France and several other EU countries. It is payable locally. The 'average' cost for a 12 metre sail boat is probably around 600€ annually.

A Spanish resident must have a 'Spanish boat license' to 'drive' the boat

BUT YOU MAY USE A TRANSLATION OF YOUR UK CERTIFICATION AS FOLLOWS:-

PLEASURE CRAFT OPERATOR
CARD

Embarcaciones de recreo sin
limitaciones
(Recreational voyages without limitation)
INTERNATIONAL
CERTIFICATE OF
COMPETENCY,
or
EMITDO

POR LA IRISH SAILING
ASSOCIATION

Embarcaciones de recreo hasta
80 GT o 24 metros de eslora
Dentro de este certificado
existen varias categorías, pero
todas ellas limitadas a
navegaciones costeras
(You can drive according to qualifications listed on your ICC / EMITDO within 60 miles of the coast.)

YACHTMASTER OCEAN
CERTIFICATE

Embarcaciones sin limitaciones
(Voyages without limit)
COASTAL SKIPPER
Embarcaciones de hasta 24
m. de eslora, sin alejarse más
de 20 millas de la costa.

YATCHMASTER
OFFSHORE

Embarcaciones de hasta 24
m. de eslora, sin alejarse más
de 150 millas de la costa.

YATCHMASTER
OFFSHORE
with commercial
endorsement

Embarcaciones de hasta 200
toneladas brutas, sin alejarse
más de 150 millas de la costa.


What is even better news is that the RYA provides Spanish translations for all their qualifications on their web site to download.

So, as a Spanish resident to 'drive' your boat in Spanish waters, you need a minimum of an ICC - with a Spanish translation attached!

So it appears provided you pay the boat tax - and that is what all the tightening up by Spanish Customs is all about then you can drive your boat around on the UK RYA tickets that you probably already have... You may need help in Spanish Flagging your boat but that's available at quite modest charges - see the web site - http://redirectingat.com/?id=635X49.../newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2514363

Before anybody gets too excited about the annual boat tax I pay that here in France at about the same rate and 'avoided' it in the Netherlands. We in the UK are very lucky not to pay 'light dues' or boat tax but I suspect that will change.....

Michael
 
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