jimi
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Oldish vintage, any good .. or better sticking with the Bennie? Wot U think?
Southerly 115
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Gunfleet
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Lifting keel? Could it be you'll come round the corner in it?
BlueSkyNick
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Depends what you mean by Oldish - presumably no more than about 10. If you are looking for better accommodation for the family, I should think its a pretty safe bet.
Performance will be as good if not better, you won't lose on the capital value, but will have a little more in maintenance costs. Another consideration should be the cost of upgrading instruments and other equipment, if the current stuff was fitted when she was new.
Performance will be as good if not better, you won't lose on the capital value, but will have a little more in maintenance costs. Another consideration should be the cost of upgrading instruments and other equipment, if the current stuff was fitted when she was new.
FullCircle
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The most amazing AVS numbers, no really, they are. High freeboard for pontoons and manoevreing, rudder loses grip early, lovely inside helm & chart area. Loved them for a long time, but bought the Jeanneau SO35 LK instead. Nice aft cabin though, and resale they seem to walk away holding very good values.
Is it Mk1 or 2?
Is it Mk1 or 2?
jimi
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It'd be a Mark 1, I find the AVS figures astonishing, I woundered if it was anthing to do with bouyancy from the pilot house? Has anyone sufficient ecperience of them to say what the motion comfort at sea is like?
FullCircle
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Jimi,
I was in contact with another Bristol Channel forumite who was considering a Southerly or a Lift Keel Jen like mine. He had confirmed the 160 degree AVS with Rob Humphries design office, and sent the stab curves to me. I kept the Jen one.....sorry!
I was in contact with another Bristol Channel forumite who was considering a Southerly or a Lift Keel Jen like mine. He had confirmed the 160 degree AVS with Rob Humphries design office, and sent the stab curves to me. I kept the Jen one.....sorry!
Birdseye
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Solid boat, made the traditional way with laminated in bulkheads etc. very much a motor sailer - keel might go down 8ft, but the rudder doesnt lift at all and so has to be shallow and easily looses grip at high angles of heel. Northshore claim no examples of osmosis since they changed to their nordseal system 15 years ago. Interior woodwork (certainly on the latest models) is easily up to Swedish standards. Keel system very robust, but the hull is still near the putty when dried out - bilge keels are better for drying IMHO. Quite heavy with reputedly a good ride.
Your BeJan will most probably sail better, but the Southerly is in a different quality league.
Your BeJan will most probably sail better, but the Southerly is in a different quality league.
FullCircle
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There have been a brace of Southerly 105s on the mud off Southend for years and years. No apparent harm to them, and that isn't the easiest place to leave your boat. A good stern test I'd say.
ShipsWoofy
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agreed, quite a popular boat along the west coast of Wales, many on drying or semi drying moorings.
I would like one!
I would like one!
toad
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plombier
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Jimi, did a cross-channel trip and back in one from Dartmouth to the CI some years ago. The motion at sea is very good considering the keel config. But don't try and be clever and sneak into Victoria Marina over the cill and then try a sharp turn to port with the keel up - they don't turn!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Found it a very comfortable boat with 4 on board - the pilot house is very useful in the wet. Ours had the hydraulic lifting keel but another we had in the West Country had a manual keel - bloody hard work.
Found it a very comfortable boat with 4 on board - the pilot house is very useful in the wet. Ours had the hydraulic lifting keel but another we had in the West Country had a manual keel - bloody hard work.
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i think you need to get a nice clean one, cos that obviously the main thing you won't be able to change.
but i thort the benny has more axshul cabins, vital with stack of daughters?
but i thort the benny has more axshul cabins, vital with stack of daughters?
Gunfleet
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Keel configuration immaterial
Our boatseeker tells me that if his daughters were in charge the thing would stay firmly tied to the shore.
Our boatseeker tells me that if his daughters were in charge the thing would stay firmly tied to the shore.
Grehan
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Grehan is a mk 1 115, 1992 vintage. She's absolutely bloody great.
Heavy and well built. Looks after us, that's for sure.
Well designed inside and out; we like her lines although they're not exactly 'fine'.
Hydraulic keel is a godsend for chumps like us, for shallow bits, places with tides, etc etc Wouldn't fancy the wind-up version though (I think this was the early 95s). High level of stability even with the keel completely up and us drawing less than 1m. Leeway is rather noticeable under these circumstances, I must admit . . but great going downwind.
Handles well, although she not keen on going backwards and doing what she told to do at the same time. (rudder is big, but not deep). Bowthruster (horror) is a good idea.
Big windows give loads of light and enable steering from inside (although we don't do much of that). Oldies do leak round the edges, though.
Northshore (John Warne is the workshop director) are helpful and know well a boat they've been making for decades. A few have done circumnavigations. Good owner's club.
Heavy and well built. Looks after us, that's for sure.
Well designed inside and out; we like her lines although they're not exactly 'fine'.
Hydraulic keel is a godsend for chumps like us, for shallow bits, places with tides, etc etc Wouldn't fancy the wind-up version though (I think this was the early 95s). High level of stability even with the keel completely up and us drawing less than 1m. Leeway is rather noticeable under these circumstances, I must admit . . but great going downwind.
Handles well, although she not keen on going backwards and doing what she told to do at the same time. (rudder is big, but not deep). Bowthruster (horror) is a good idea.
Big windows give loads of light and enable steering from inside (although we don't do much of that). Oldies do leak round the edges, though.
Northshore (John Warne is the workshop director) are helpful and know well a boat they've been making for decades. A few have done circumnavigations. Good owner's club.
