Sonic Shield, does it work?

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I researched these systems quite extensively a while ago when I was looking for a better antifouling system. I came to the conclusion that they're marginally less than useless, so I scrubbed the idea and went for a type of boat lift instead.
 
Hello jfm, Sorry to hear that you have not had a good experience with Ultrasonic Antifouling technology. Just to ensure the readership of this thread are given the correct information we (CMS Marine / SonicShield) only started selling our product in 2011 and so the system you are referring to it not one of our SonicShield systems. Your feedback along with other forum users has been integral to the continuous development of our system over the last 3 years and has ensured large gains have been made in the success of the product. I trust this post is received in good spirits as I am sure you can appreciate that any specific negative feedback regarding our product is potentially damaging. If you have not lost all faith in this technology you can make contact with us using the link in the original post and I would be happy to explain our system in more detail. Thanks Sam
jfm said:
I've tried it on my sq58 from 2009-10. Total waste of time and money IMHO.
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cmsmarine said:
Hello jfm, Sorry to hear that you have not had a good experience with Ultrasonic Antifouling technology. Just to ensure the readership of this thread are given the correct information we (CMS Marine / SonicShield) only started selling our product in 2011 and so the system you are referring to it not one of our SonicShield systems.

I would be happy to explain our system in more detail. Thanks Sam
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I would be very interested to see boats that you have tested your system on and the results! :nonchalance:

If you have none, I would recommend that you invite both 'JFM' and 'Hurricane' to trial it for you as they have both spent considerable time and money looking at your competitor's offerings.:encouragement:

RR
 
Hi there Sam

I am also someone who has perceived this technology in a negative light. When ever it has been tested it seems to make no material difference to hull growth.

If you have the time possibly you could outline where the product was going wrong prior to 2011 and why / how it now works as expected. As has been suggested a real world trial would definitely secure support from the forum. By the sound of things there are people on here who have invested money in previous incarnations and as such would be ideal candidates.

By asking for the information I believe it exonerates you from the accusation of advertising.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.


Henry :)
 
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henryf said:
Hi there Sam

I am also someone who has perceived this technology in a negative light. When ever it has been tested it seems to make no material difference to hull growth.

If you have the time possibly you could outline where the product was going wrong prior to 2011 and why / how it now works as expected. As has been suggested a real world trial would definitely secure support from the forum. By the sound of things there are people on here who have invested money in previous incarnations and as such would be ideal candidates.

By asking for the information I believe it exonerates you from the accusation of advertising.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.


Henry :)
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Sam,

Welcome to the forum. I have looked at your website and can find no indication of independant tests to show that the system works, no references from satisfied customers, and the scenarios listed are merely hypothetical demonstrations of the savings to be made IF the system works. Surely you must have more than this?
 
acbruce said:
Sam,

Welcome to the forum. I have looked at your website and can find no indication of independant tests to show that the system works, no references from satisfied customers, and the scenarios listed are merely hypothetical demonstrations of the savings to be made IF the system works. Surely you must have more than this?
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I was probably a bit heavy in my original reply and HenryF was far more polite, apols for that. :o

But this does always to sound a little like the ol' 'Snake Oil' :(

RR
 
RogerRat said:
I was probably a bit heavy in my original reply and HenryF was far more polite, apols for that. :o

But this does always to sound a little like the ol' 'Snake Oil' :(

RR
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Yep, that was my conclusion when I looked into this, with great anticipation a few years back. I just could not find any true tested evidence that proved it really worked, just loads of examples where it didn't. Mind you in fairness this was a few years back so perhaps it's all improved by now and I am happy to be convinced by seeing genuine independent evidence.
 
Independent evidence,

Short on the ground, but happy to be proved wrong. However I after seeing this "technology" being pushed for the past 30 years or so I remain sceptical.
 
As per the previous replies, I am extremely sceptical about this but would love to be convinced otherwise. I am sure there are lots of willing (mine included) test boats out there available to prove that your system is the answer to this age old problem?
 
I just thought I would give this a little bump.

I have to be honest Sam (CMS / SonicShield) if I was selling something which genuinely worked I would have jumped at the chance to extol it's virtues.

You have an open market here but one which is very sceptical. I don't know how much a stand at London / Southampton costs but you probably have more direct eyes and ears here for free (just in case you didn't think it was worth the effort of a reply).


Henry :)
 
henryf said:
I just thought I would give this a little bump.

I have to be honest Sam (CMS / SonicShield) if I was selling something which genuinely worked I would have jumped at the chance to extol it's virtues.

You have an open market here but one which is very sceptical. I don't know how much a stand at London / Southampton costs but you probably have more direct eyes and ears here for free (just in case you didn't think it was worth the effort of a reply).


Henry :)
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I'm against inviting anyone to advertise on here. If they want to sway peoples opinions, which as you say are mostly sceptical, they should commission an independent test and publish the results.
 
Ultrasound is a strange technology, half the world is using it to destroy plants the other half is using it to grow them! I have no idea who is right but at random I
I found this
Http://www.motherearthnews.com/orga...h-zmaz84mjzloeck.aspx?PageId=2#ArticleContent

Just goole using ultrasound to prompote plant growth - confused? I know l am plus the various special frequencies are claimed to be beneficial by both camps. Raw snake oil.
 
cmsmarine said:
Hello jfm, Sorry to hear that you have not had a good experience with Ultrasonic Antifouling technology. Just to ensure the readership of this thread are given the correct information we (CMS Marine / SonicShield) only started selling our product in 2011 and so the system you are referring to it not one of our SonicShield systems. Your feedback along with other forum users has been integral to the continuous development of our system over the last 3 years and has ensured large gains have been made in the success of the product. I trust this post is received in good spirits as I am sure you can appreciate that any specific negative feedback regarding our product is potentially damaging. If you have not lost all faith in this technology you can make contact with us using the link in the original post and I would be happy to explain our system in more detail. Thanks Sam
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I've only just seen this thread
I'm sorry but I think you and your competitors have misunderstood the market
Paint Antifoul products work - there's no need to invent a replacement.
Our big problem is keeping our underwater metalwork clear of barnacles and other marine growth.
It is, especially, a problem in the Mediterranean where the water is warmer and the growth more aggressive.
When we had our boat in the UK we didn't really suffer from marine growth so there wasn't a need.
Fast planing motorboats create huge forces under the boat and there is no known paint that will stick to our propellers, shafts, rudders and trim tabs etc.
So, when the industry indicated that Ultrasonics would keep growth away, we all became VERY interested.
Not being a coating, Ultrasonics would have been the "Holy Grail" for us.
However, there is absolutely no proof or evidence that ANY ultrasonic system will keep our underwater metalwork clean from fouling.
I have now gone "full circle" and don't treat the metalwork at all.
Actually, thats not strictly true - this year after polishing the metalwork, I spent (literally) 15mins spraying some TK antifouling on.
If that works it WILL be the the "Holy Grail" because I haven't really tried very hard with the stuff!!!
 
Hoorah. A company who offers a money-back guarantee!

I'll bet they don't....:rolleyes:


cmsmarine said:
Hello jfm, Sorry to hear that you have not had a good experience with Ultrasonic Antifouling technology. Just to ensure the readership of this thread are given the correct information we (CMS Marine / SonicShield) only started selling our product in 2011 and so the system you are referring to it not one of our SonicShield systems. Your feedback along with other forum users has been integral to the continuous development of our system over the last 3 years and has ensured large gains have been made in the success of the product. I trust this post is received in good spirits as I am sure you can appreciate that any specific negative feedback regarding our product is potentially damaging. If you have not lost all faith in this technology you can make contact with us using the link in the original post and I would be happy to explain our system in more detail. Thanks Sam
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