Solent - Effluent Holding & Discharge?

duncan99210 said:
When the boat was on a swinging mooring in the Menai Strait we never worried about pumping out the head directly overboard - there was always a current running to disperse the effluent. However, one of the jobs I did before heading for the Med was to fit a holding tank, as the lack of tidal flow means that any effluent discharged overboard tends to hang round then place, unpleasant for ourselves and our neighbours.
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That plus you tend to spend more time anchored in bays where people are swimming.

Holding tank morally obligatory in the Med, I reckon, but not required around most of the UK. Could be convenient in enclosed harbours though to avoid the walk to shore facilities.

We don't have one, for reasons partly of simplicity but mostly lack of space. It was that or the dinghy...

Pete
 
Minchsailor said:
When I was a youth, there was a pipe of Calshot that discharged untreated sewage into the Solent with all the unmentionables that you could imagine (and some you couldn't....). I would think a few yachts pumping out their holding tanks, on the ebb, a mile offshore would be no problem.
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Much like San Antonio 30 yes ago, Panty liner central
 
Minchsailor said:
When I was a youth, there was a pipe of Calshot that discharged untreated sewage into the Solent with all the unmentionables that you could imagine (and some you couldn't....). I would think a few yachts pumping out their holding tanks, on the ebb, a mile offshore would be no problem.
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Not that many years ago there was one half way up the Medina just up from Island Harbour that pumped out after high tide most days. Nothing routinely gets pumped out in the Solent any more, it all goes out off the back of the island.
 
CLB said:
I'd love to know where the myth that fish eat human poo originated from. It is often quoted but is simply not true. Micro organisms will process it, but it won't be eaten by any fish, even bottom feeders. Think about it, no one has ever caught a fish using poo as bait :D
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Won't stay on the freakin' hook!:disgust:
 
chanelyacht said:
More sh*t comes down the Itchen than you could ever put out of the back of your boat.
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Where from?

We get the odd plank, tree branch, etc floating past, and no doubt there's a lot of metallic runoff from the scrapyard, but as far as I know there is no sewage discharge into the Itchen.

Pete
 
Fantasie 19 said:
Given what Southern Water regularly pump into Langstone I wouldn't bother too much about your tiny outpourings.. :D

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/he...arbour-gathers-support-of-thousands-1-7293407
http://www.wave105.com/news/local/stop-pouring-sewage-into-our-harbour/
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As soon as we have heavy rain in Portsmouth the sewers become overloaded and Southern Water discharge straight into the Solent, they are building holding tanks to try to cope in fairness to them, but i really wouldnt worry. Just get a Hep A jab if you want to go swimming in the water is what my Doc said
 
chrishscorp said:
As soon as we have heavy rain in Portsmouth the sewers become overloaded and Southern Water discharge straight into the Solent, they are building holding tanks to try to cope in fairness to them, but i really wouldnt worry. Just get a Hep A jab if you want to go swimming in the water is what my Doc said
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Ha... I think we've probably done this one to death, but as a much younger man I used to windsurf a lot and our favourite club spot was a little beach right by the side of the main outlet from Budds (sewerage) Farm at the top of Langstone Harbour... we sailed there for years, during, before, and after pump out, and never suffered - we just used to tell the new guys to make sure they closed their mouths when/if they fell in... :D
 
Fantasie 19 said:
Ha... I think we've probably done this one to death, but as a much younger man I used to windsurf a lot and our favourite club spot was a little beach right by the side of the main outlet from Budds (sewerage) Farm at the top of Langstone Harbour... we sailed there for years, during, before, and after pump out, and never suffered - we just used to tell the new guys to make sure they closed their mouths when/if they fell in... :D
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I think the main problem area is the long outfall off eastney beach were it is pumped out untreated. I spent 14 years dinghy sailing in Chi harbour and occasionally Langston and i never had any problems but was jabbed for HEP A and B partly because of work.
 
chrishscorp said:
I think the main problem area is the long outfall off eastney beach were it is pumped out untreated.
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Not any more. Since about 2000 it has been pumped to Budds Farm for treatment then pumped back to Eastney for discharge. The exception is storm overflow conditions but Portsmouth have been doing a lot of work recently to seperate storm water and foul water flows where possible and reduce the number of overflow incidents.
https://www.southernwater.co.uk/Media/Default/images/3060_PortsmouthHavant_WWT_v4.pdf
Almost everywhere now there are centralised treatment works with flows pumped quite long distances to reach them. e.g. Netley to Peel Common (which is just outside Gosport). God help us if there is a major power cut during a heavy rain storm!
 
DJE said:
Not any more. Since about 2000 it has been pumped to Budds Farm for treatment then pumped back to Eastney for discharge. The exception is storm overflow conditions but Portsmouth have been doing a lot of work recently to seperate storm water and foul water flows where possible and reduce the number of overflow incidents.
https://www.southernwater.co.uk/Media/Default/images/3060_PortsmouthHavant_WWT_v4.pdf
Almost everywhere now there are centralised treatment works with flows pumped quite long distances to reach them. e.g. Netley to Peel Common (which is just outside Gosport). God help us if there is a major power cut during a heavy rain storm!
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Exactly what i stated in my earlier post on the thread

Most of the critical pump stations have automatic back up generators that will kick in, but they do need to be fueled up regularly if used
 
prv said:
Where from?

We get the odd plank, tree branch, etc floating past, and no doubt there's a lot of metallic runoff from the scrapyard, but as far as I know there is no sewage discharge into the Itchen.

Pete
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Cows, sheep, dogs, etc.

It may not be human, but there's still a heck of a lot of fecal matter in rivers.

Fish wee in them, too :)
 
Sailorsam101 said:
I have never used a holding tank in the Solent. Any nasty that come from my boat is dispersed quickly and over a wide area by the strong tides.

I don;t see it as an issue in UK waters.
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That's the ticket. Sleep easy with that thought.

Anyhow, most people swimming off our beaches these days are those who are getting poorer, you know the ones who can't afford a boat.

Sweet dreams !
 
prv said:
Well, you can count me among them.

I swim off the boat sometimes too.

Pete
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As did I until we moved to Florida where they are really 'anal' about discharge, though quite why when the stink from the town's discharges daily is disgusting around local HW, so one assumes the water is not pristine pure. I no longer swim off the boat, too many sharks for my liking off our beaches and 'gators in the ICW In the Bahamas I might tempt the sharks with a dangled toe We have a holding tank of course, pumped out in our home berth on request , free, but in the Bahamas would just go a ways off the shore to empty it occasionally as the pumpouts are neither free nor numerous.
 
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