small yacht advice
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Seajet
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May I suggest here is the answer to all the OP's requirements;
www.anderson22class.co.uk
lift keel which doesn't suffer any mud or stones etc, as the ballast bulb is veed on top to fair in with the hull,
Outboard in well, stows in dedicated locker and fairing plug put in for decent trips,
Good interior,
Very seaworthy, 3 have raced across the Atlantic ( 1 of which is now for sale )
Fast without being twitchy,
Spares and a lot of backup availabe ( ask how I know ! )
www.anderson22class.co.uk
lift keel which doesn't suffer any mud or stones etc, as the ballast bulb is veed on top to fair in with the hull,
Outboard in well, stows in dedicated locker and fairing plug put in for decent trips,
Good interior,
Very seaworthy, 3 have raced across the Atlantic ( 1 of which is now for sale )
Fast without being twitchy,
Spares and a lot of backup availabe ( ask how I know ! )
Lakesailor
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I was thinking it may be too lively for single-handing without heavy lumps sat on the rail.
The Limbo and the Hunter 707 (and the Cork 1720) are all a bit lively, to my mind, for single-handing, especially if you haven't a lot of experience (and I include myself ) in these types of boat.
Steve Goacher in his 1720
The Limbo and the Hunter 707 (and the Cork 1720) are all a bit lively, to my mind, for single-handing, especially if you haven't a lot of experience (and I include myself ) in these types of boat.
Steve Goacher in his 1720
Seajet
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Lakie,
If you're referring to the Anderson 22, no way is she too lively ! Fast and rewarding yes, but no way lively in the term you mean; your boat is a lot livelier in that sense.
Judging by your examples above, I think you may have the Anderson confused with something else.
As for the boats you've just listed, I wouldn't touch them, and wouldn't dream of advising a newcomer to try them. I would certainly count an E-Boat as too twitchy for beginners too, and I don't think it compares as a cruiser, re. interior, outboard in well etc; the E-Boat is faster in light winds but not in a blow.
If you're ever down South during the season, ( no I don't mean by boat ! ) come for a sail.
There used to be one on Windermere but that was a while ago, she's dropped off the radar.
Meanwhile have a look at the website, remember 44% ballast 4'6" down, not all that light at 2,500lbs +, and wide beam for form stability too.
www.anderson22class.co.uk
BTW I don't make a penny out of sales, and manage to lose quite handsomely on the Owners Association, but it's better than no-one doing it...
If you're referring to the Anderson 22, no way is she too lively ! Fast and rewarding yes, but no way lively in the term you mean; your boat is a lot livelier in that sense.
Judging by your examples above, I think you may have the Anderson confused with something else.
As for the boats you've just listed, I wouldn't touch them, and wouldn't dream of advising a newcomer to try them. I would certainly count an E-Boat as too twitchy for beginners too, and I don't think it compares as a cruiser, re. interior, outboard in well etc; the E-Boat is faster in light winds but not in a blow.
If you're ever down South during the season, ( no I don't mean by boat ! ) come for a sail.
There used to be one on Windermere but that was a while ago, she's dropped off the radar.
Meanwhile have a look at the website, remember 44% ballast 4'6" down, not all that light at 2,500lbs +, and wide beam for form stability too.
www.anderson22class.co.uk
BTW I don't make a penny out of sales, and manage to lose quite handsomely on the Owners Association, but it's better than no-one doing it...
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sdi2
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I saw a video the other day of a boat (I am pretty sure it was a 707) doing 19 knots, unfortunately I now cant find it.
Some ideas are now coalescing in my head.
I think by nippy I mean faster than average cruising rather than blasting along.
The Anderson 22 looks interesting, is it much of a palaver winching the keel up and down?
Also, is the anderson 26 similar, just longer.
Some ideas are now coalescing in my head.
I think by nippy I mean faster than average cruising rather than blasting along.
The Anderson 22 looks interesting, is it much of a palaver winching the keel up and down?
Also, is the anderson 26 similar, just longer.
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Seajet
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sdi2,
The keel on the Anderson is deliberately very simple, put on a hanle and winch up - takes about 1 minute - and just wind the other way to go down, it's braked so can't go at a rush.
The Anderson 26 is a much bigger boat, a good one too though I prefer the '22.
the '26 was designed directly following the 1979 Fastnet disaster, encompassing all the modifications recommended ( in a cruiser ).
On the '22 all the ballast is on the end of the keel, exactly where you want it; on the '26, due to scale & weight, most of the ballast is on the bottom of the hull in a long stub, with just a plate going through it.
The 26 is a powerful, 'stiff' ie - stable - boat, but can become a handful if inexperienced; the '22 is even more stiff, and never goes nuts !
Even if one overpresses her madly, she won't 'gripe up to windward and lose grip with the rudder as a lot of boats do - have a look at the rudder, it's no token effort, solid iroko too.
The '22 is a fast passage maker and will sort out much larger more expensive boats, ( very rwarding ! ) but she does it without fuss.
I sail either singlehanded or with novice girlfriend, have had her since 1977.
I once sold her in a mad fit and bought a fin keel Carter 30, but missed my A22 so much I sold the Carter and bought my old Anerson back.
Have a look round the site.
The keel on the Anderson is deliberately very simple, put on a hanle and winch up - takes about 1 minute - and just wind the other way to go down, it's braked so can't go at a rush.
The Anderson 26 is a much bigger boat, a good one too though I prefer the '22.
the '26 was designed directly following the 1979 Fastnet disaster, encompassing all the modifications recommended ( in a cruiser ).
On the '22 all the ballast is on the end of the keel, exactly where you want it; on the '26, due to scale & weight, most of the ballast is on the bottom of the hull in a long stub, with just a plate going through it.
The 26 is a powerful, 'stiff' ie - stable - boat, but can become a handful if inexperienced; the '22 is even more stiff, and never goes nuts !
Even if one overpresses her madly, she won't 'gripe up to windward and lose grip with the rudder as a lot of boats do - have a look at the rudder, it's no token effort, solid iroko too.
The '22 is a fast passage maker and will sort out much larger more expensive boats, ( very rwarding ! ) but she does it without fuss.
I sail either singlehanded or with novice girlfriend, have had her since 1977.
I once sold her in a mad fit and bought a fin keel Carter 30, but missed my A22 so much I sold the Carter and bought my old Anerson back.
Have a look round the site.
Lakesailor
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Seajet. I know you are an Anderson evangelist, but if you look back to post#21 you will see I am having an ongoing discussion and not about the Anderson, which I agree with you, seems to be an excellent choice.
Lakesailor
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sdi2
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Aha, its not the one I saw (more crew on board), but it gets the point across.
FullCircle
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Limbo not as mad as that, but a lot faster than an Anderson 22 for instance.
Interestingly, both the Anderson and the Limbo were devised for the first Mini Transat.
steve350
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Only fools rush in eh?
Seajet
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Steve 350,
you can't be too careful about these things, but I must say I enjoy getting her really going flat out, a review on her by David Harding said she could carry on day and night forever...
you can't be too careful about these things, but I must say I enjoy getting her really going flat out, a review on her by David Harding said she could carry on day and night forever...