Sleipner Thruster - Q Prop upgrade kit. Report

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After a brief discussion on here last year I have finally got around to fitting this new bow thruster propeller.

A report on the antifouling performance on the hull follows separately.


The ‘kit’ consists of a new five bladed shaped prop (old type was 4 blades – pitched, not shaped) which looks not unlike the shape used on an HMS nuke submarine although these have many more blades. A new adaptor that fits the shaft, new locator/locking pin, new locking nut with nylon thread + washer , plus a replacement anode.

I got this at SIBS with the intention of fitting same over at the Cowes sealift during the winter. Anyway this was not to be so when I lifted out for a ‘shampoo, shave and haircut ’ in my home marina last Friday; whilst the boat was in the slings this job was done.

Typically as the holding time in the slings was limited things went wrong at the start.
Previously when ‘on the hard’ during antifouling etc I have changed the thruster anode – simple enough just remove the Allen key screw and the anode falls off the prop nut that holds its position. This time I could not get the Allen key in – some marine hardish growth had rudely taken up home in the key hole! High pressure water blast sorted that family out and I tried again. This time key fitted but I could not turn it – too tight. Sod it! After a struggle it moved, time was becoming short now. Removed the bolt but the normally loose anode was stuck fast on the nut. Incidentally it was only 5% eroded after 13 months in the water. Again HP blast and much banging and teasing still no movement, bear in mind this is actually quite a tight place to be banging about as any sideways action has to be contained in the narrow confines of the tunnel. Anyway, finally removed the anode by a double claw pincer movement using a couple of paint tin openers……

Removing the prop nut was yet another test of resolve as SWMBO will attest with bruised hands from holding the wood wedges that had to be deployed holding the prop against its vertical drive housing.

Fitting the new prop was a doddle after this – except I managed to cut SWMBO finger quite badly when I said “ hold the prop whilst I tighten the nut with this large socket ratchet with extension” I had not checked she was using the wooden wedges but her hands directly on the blades!.......


Once refloated – time to try. This was actually quite difficult as during the operation the wind was blowing exactly side on as I approached the hoist 15 knots with gusts to 30. The thruster is now certainly much much quieter so I assume less cavitation.

It certainly seems to ‘grip’ better – before, you would operate it and only after a couple of seconds did you notice any action. Now it’s almost immediate – this is excellent for arresting a swing without overdoing it.
What I need to test now is improved power. Frankly I have always taken the view that in F3 or below it was not needed and in anything stronger it was underpowered.
The wind during my brief test was too gusty to gauge but I think there is an improvement as there does appear to be more grunt – it certainly sounds more effective.

I would be interested if others have fitted this and their findings????
 
I think I replied to your previous post? - if not then another.

I took the opportunity to upgrade the props on the bow & stern thrusters on the recommendation of a friend.

I have noticed both less noise and more thrust. Actually, the first problem I had was over thrusting particularily at the bow.

Well worth the small outlay if the boat is being lifted for other works.
 
I think you'll be pleased - they're worth it for the noise reduction alone /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Thanks. I didn't know these kits were available. I have a Sliepner and it works very well but is noisy, so I might give this thing a go at the end of this season. Thanks, and I hope the wounds all heal!
 
Ah, maybe I do. How would I know? Big curvy blades instead of stick (seagull ouboard prop) blades, or something?

Mine makes a racket and sounds the same as my old 2004 unit. It might be a 2007 unit, you know how long these things sometimes hang around in the supply chain. My boat was in build August 2008
 
Thanks. I'm not sure, but I think I have the "Seagulls". Will check at the weekend when swimming, and order the Q upgrade if I need it. Might try installing it anchored off a beach in 3 feet of water in Menorca or somewhere. That's a job that's bound to go well!

Thanks for the link/info
 
Funnily enough I thought exactly the same while I did mine standing on the hard on Friday.

Thought this would be a fun quck job with a tank on my back in 4/5 ft of clear water. As you have read normally it would be such - but on Friday it all went tits up due i think in part to pressure of time. you know, prop change, hull anodes change, trim tabs anodes to change and stern gear to acid wash all over lunch time.....Eeek!
 
I upgraded the prop on my Vetus bowthruster from 3 bladed to 6 bladed last year.

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Vetus stated that there would be no increase in thrust only a reduction in noise. I was still hopeful though that there would be an improvement in performance as the old prop was looking a bit battered. I wouldn't say that there has been a massive increase in thrust but the new prop certainly seems to grip the water better and initiates the movement of the bow quicker. There is a definite reduction in noise as well. Altogether a worthwile upgrade for a modest price (less than £100 if memory serves). However, particularly in the Med, bowthrusters and the tunnels get fouled very quickly and lose performance so it is important to keep this area clean to maximise performance
 
"which looks not unlike the shape used on an HMS nuke submarine "

Just as an aside......
In my line of work I was very fortunate in having a full guided tour of the Astute class submarine manufacturing facillity in Barrow in Furness....
Bloody amazing to walk into the assembley hall and see three submarines standing on the hard!
One interesting thing of note however is that the prop is not called a prop! its a "propulser" and they are all covered by security blankets! on questioning the reason? I was told that only a very few have had the priviledge of seeing one i.e. TOP SECRET.

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I just ordered it on the phone from the very nice and helpful Osmotech in Hamble. £94 plus vat and postage. I'll be looking for volunteers with long snorkels and spare fingers at the mallorca party day :-)
 
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I'll be looking for volunteers with long snorkels and spare fingers at the mallorca party day :-)


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I'll have 4 15yr old teenage boys on my boat who doubtless will volunteer if there's some kind of monetary reward involved. Alternatively, if there's a 15yr old girl around to impress, I'm sure they'll fall over themselves to do it for nothing
 
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