Sleeping bag What weight of filling.

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The time has come to consider a new sleeping bag for use on the boat.
I have an old one which is about the right size and has about 400g/sqm non-hollow fibre filling but it is not now warm enough for me.

I also have a large ... too large ..... tog13.5 bag with approx 530 g/sqm hollow fibre fill. Sometimes a bit too warm but main problem is its bulk in a small boat. It occupies most of the available space leaving no room for me.

Looking at bags 75cm x 190cm but wondering what weight of hollow fibre filling someone no longer in the first flush of youth should be considering.

300g/sqm even if hollow fibre wont be enough I am sure.

Is hollow fibre a sufficient improvement over the old type of polyester filling for 400g/sqm to be enough

Should I go for 500g/sqm or will I be back to the same bulkiness problem as with my TOG13.5 bag.

Not considering mummy shaped bags, down filling, or anything other than polyester, duvets or anything other than a sleeping bag but will use a hottie on cold nights.

Any opinions /experiences that might help.

Ta.
 
not sure of the weight or tog values but have a look at some of the carp fishing sleeping bags, the ones with removable inner lining.. best of both worlds and extremely warm in winter but airy and light in the summer with the inner removed... go for the 5 season variety if you're intending to stay in the boat in the depths of winter... they're bulit to pack down as small as possible being a fishing accessory... plenty of them about at good prices.. just google "5 season sleeping bag removable fleece"

either that or have a chat with an old mate of mine, Tim, who owns England Angling, he'll sort you out with something.. make sure you count your fingers if he gives you a virtual shake of the hand mind:D England Angling

something like this'll do
 
I had the same problem last year. The old Gelert Tryfan model had lost some of it's warmth (I had to resort to using 2 bags on chilly nights or running the heater all night) so I replaced it with 3 season Gelert model from Halfords - comfort restored! About £30 if I recall correctly which I thought was reasonable. Also stocked in Millets. Don't know the weight of filling or tog rating.
BTW - what are the 5 seasons referred to in the previous post? I can only name 4.
 
I have a 300gsm mummy hollow fibre bag and just bought a square non hollow fibre bag which is also 300gsm.

The hollow fibre is significantly warmer so I would say even 300 would be sufficient as long as the boat isn't drafty and cold.

The other thing I should mention is that I find the mummy bag to be more spacious and is designed longer so there is less space for cold air to get in. If you haven't tried one I'd recommend giving it a go even though they look like there won't be any room to move.
 
we bought some vango predator bags some ten years ago, 4/5 season bags, there only used in the winter by me and son, as swmbo doesnt do 'cold' and prefers her 'upper limit' tog duvet and thick fleecy blanket for the summer.
 
lustyd said:
I have a 300gsm mummy hollow fibre bag and just bought a square non hollow fibre bag which is also 300gsm.

The hollow fibre is significantly warmer so I would say even 300 would be sufficient as long as the boat isn't drafty and cold.

The other thing I should mention is that I find the mummy bag to be more spacious and is designed longer so there is less space for cold air to get in. If you haven't tried one I'd recommend giving it a go even though they look like there won't be any room to move.
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Honestly Vic, I'd have a go with a mummy bag (perhaps you could borrow one) before you discount them finally. The new ones are really cosy and pack down to almost nothing. One with a pertex lining will be super-comfy and will feel dry even if the boat is damp inside.

Generally, a three-season bag will do, unless you feel the cold a lot, in which case try a four-season bag.

An alternative is to look at a fibre-pile bag, such as a buffalo. You might take a bit of getting used to the layering system (there's a fibre-fleece liner which you can use when it's warmer and an outer made of pile with a pertex shell which combine to keep you toasty even in the depth of winter. I carried one of these during my days (or nights!) in the Mountain Rescue.

However, one of the greatest joys nowadays is that we can have a duvet on board!
 
Swmbo made ours from really good duvets so they fitted the various funny shaped bits of the boat,like v-berth.Other bits to keep warm is either a thermarest mat (google it) or the under blanket ikea sell .....brilliant.On my own i prefer the mummy sleeping bag and a load of beer before bed!!!
 
colvic987 said:
we bought some vango predator bags some ten years ago, 4/5 season bags, there only used in the winter by me and son, as swmbo doesnt do 'cold' and prefers her 'upper limit' tog duvet and thick fleecy blanket for the summer.
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What is the 5th season?
 
VicS said:
The time has come to consider a new sleeping bag for use on the boat.
I have an old one which is about the right size and has about 400g/sqm non-hollow fibre filling but it is not now warm enough for me.

I also have a large ... too large ..... tog13.5 bag with approx 530 g/sqm hollow fibre fill. Sometimes a bit too warm but main problem is its bulk in a small boat. It occupies most of the available space leaving no room for me.

Looking at bags 75cm x 190cm but wondering what weight of hollow fibre filling someone no longer in the first flush of youth should be considering.

300g/sqm even if hollow fibre wont be enough I am sure.

Is hollow fibre a sufficient improvement over the old type of polyester filling for 400g/sqm to be enough

Should I go for 500g/sqm or will I be back to the same bulkiness problem as with my TOG13.5 bag.

Not considering mummy shaped bags, down filling, or anything other than polyester, duvets or anything other than a sleeping bag but will use a hottie on cold nights.

Any opinions /experiences that might help.

Ta.
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Designed especially for sailors -

http://www.oceansleepwear.co.uk/
 
VicS said:
Not considering mummy shaped bags, down filling, or anything other than polyester, duvets or anything other than a sleeping bag but will use a hottie on cold nights.

Any opinions /experiences that might help.
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On Jumblie I use a ten quid rectangular sleeping bag from Tesco and a couple of nice blue fleece blankets from IKEA (about a fiver a pair) on cold nights. Works fine.
 
VicS said:
The time has come to consider a new sleeping bag for use on the boat.
I have an old one which is about the right size and has about 400g/sqm non-hollow fibre filling but it is not now warm enough for me.

I also have a large ... too large ..... tog13.5 bag with approx 530 g/sqm hollow fibre fill. Sometimes a bit too warm but main problem is its bulk in a small boat. It occupies most of the available space leaving no room for me.

Looking at bags 75cm x 190cm but wondering what weight of hollow fibre filling someone no longer in the first flush of youth should be considering.

300g/sqm even if hollow fibre wont be enough I am sure.

Is hollow fibre a sufficient improvement over the old type of polyester filling for 400g/sqm to be enough

Should I go for 500g/sqm or will I be back to the same bulkiness problem as with my TOG13.5 bag.

Not considering mummy shaped bags, down filling, or anything other than polyester, duvets or anything other than a sleeping bag but will use a hottie on cold nights.

Any opinions /experiences that might help.

Ta.
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My sleeping bag had the same problem in not being warm enough at times. I invested in cheap duvets and use them as blankets. Even a 4.5 tog one makes a lot of difference when placed on top of the sleeping bag.
 
alant said:
Designed especially for sailors -

http://www.oceansleepwear.co.uk/
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Looks nice but comes with appropriate "yachtie" price tag.

I wonder what £240 would get you in a decent mountain shop.


To the OP, as others have suggested, mummy bags are quite comfy and also warmer because you can pull the hood closed and pull the entrance closed around your shoulders to help keep the cold out.
My plan is to get a new one sometime but one for very cold climates. I can always not zip it up if I'm too warm.
 
alant said:
Designed especially for sailors -

http://www.oceansleepwear.co.uk/
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They don't give widths only lengths...I find most sleeping bags, especially the mummy style are too narrow for comfort or to even do up fully. I have to get the wider versions.
They do seem pricy tho. I've never been cold on a boat, but I've never slept on board in the winter in this country.
 
Ubergeekian said:
On Jumblie I use a ten quid rectangular sleeping bag from Tesco and a couple of nice blue fleece blankets from IKEA (about a fiver a pair) on cold nights. Works fine.
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Its not just me that got fed up with mummy style bags then. I prefer the rectangular shape I'm also a fan of layering. I can be red hot in the early part of the night and freezing at 3 am, so a fleece blanket..or two..allows you to adjust accordingly.

Tim
 
Alfie168 said:
Its not just me that got fed up with mummy style bags then. I prefer the rectangular shape I'm also a fan of layering. I can be red hot in the early part of the night and freezing at 3 am, so a fleece blanket..or two..allows you to adjust accordingly.
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I don't like mummy bags at all. If I wanted to go camping I'd buy a bleedin' tent. Plus they all tend to come in shiny plastic finishes which just don't suit the civilised ambience of Jumblie at all. The Tesco ones are nice soft cloth!
 
FistralG said:
They don't give widths only lengths...I find most sleeping bags, especially the mummy style are too narrow for comfort or to even do up fully. I have to get the wider versions.
They do seem pricy tho. I've never been cold on a boat, but I've never slept on board in the winter in this country.
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Are you admitting that you are fat? :D
 
VicS said:
The time has come to consider a new sleeping bag for use on the boat.
I have an old one which is about the right size and has about 400g/sqm non-hollow fibre filling but it is not now warm enough for me.

I also have a large ... too large ..... tog13.5 bag with approx 530 g/sqm hollow fibre fill. Sometimes a bit too warm but main problem is its bulk in a small boat. It occupies most of the available space leaving no room for me.

Looking at bags 75cm x 190cm but wondering what weight of hollow fibre filling someone no longer in the first flush of youth should be considering.

300g/sqm even if hollow fibre wont be enough I am sure.

Is hollow fibre a sufficient improvement over the old type of polyester filling for 400g/sqm to be enough

Should I go for 500g/sqm or will I be back to the same bulkiness problem as with my TOG13.5 bag.

Not considering mummy shaped bags, down filling, or anything other than polyester, duvets or anything other than a sleeping bag but will use a hottie on cold nights.

Any opinions /experiences that might help.

Ta.
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On our spacious, luxurious Bene, we use full size double duvets, nice and warm :)
Stu
 
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