Skagen 50

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I recently read an article on this vessel. I must say it seems to have a lot going for it. Huge flybridge overhang for crane and tender, safe side decks again with the fly overhanging so sheltered. Semi dis I believe so happy at 8-9 knts and capable of 24. Anyone had any experienceof these?
 
Fab looking boat, simple but great flybridge layout, but pricey and as always low side decks means narrow saloon, but definitely on my list of possibles in the future once they've depreciated a bit.
 
Great looking boat and has a lot going for it but I didn't think the quality reported was there, if you walk to the back of the flybridge you can feel the deck move under you, shift your weight up and down a bit and it springs up and down. Helm position was not up to scratch, siting down you were perched way too high to see out safely and some of the joinery wasn't better than mainstream, it aint no Fleming, sorry all IMHO but what I thought.
 
Agree with the others. I was really looking forward to seeing the Skagen at SIBS and I was a bit disappointed. Firstly it was pricey (and will be even pricier now) and I did'nt think the quality reflected that. It's quite plain inside and the saloon feels small. The flybridge looked good though. IMHO the designers also missed a trick by not putting a midships master cabin in
The Fleming 55 and Marlow 57 feel like altogether better built and more swish boats
 
Read the reports, looked at the website and siad "that's the one for me".

Off to SIBS we went, couldn't wait to see it.

I was very dissapointed, shaky flybridge, small saloon, major head height issue at lower helm.

Maybe I was expecting too much after reading the reports /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Didn't she get an award at LBS?
 
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Think MBY / MBM voted it best trawler or summit at recent awards do during LIBS.

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That's the one.

Same crowd voted for Sessa 46 /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Best trawler?!? Please, tell us you (they) are (were) joking.
If not, I wonder if anyone bothered to have at least a quick look at the Skagen hull.
With such judges, an Abs 52 would have excellent chances in the flybridge category.
 
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Think MBY / MBM voted it best trawler or summit at recent awards do during LIBS.

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That's the one.

Same crowd voted for Sessa 46 /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Looks nice but it suffers from what all these pilot house cruisers suffer from and that is a very small saloon for it's length and since these boats are designed for liveaboard cruising, thats a big downside of this style of cruiser IMHO. The only pilot house cruiser of this size that I've seen recently with an acceptable saloon is the Marlow 57 and that's because the M57 has a v wide beam
 
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but definitely on my list of possibles in the future once they've depreciated a bit.

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Well, now off my list of possibles given the comments above, i'd only seen the pictures and MBY review. If you really want to know what a boats like, seems you have to ask on here, not read the mags /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
houghn
I dont agree with disclosing a product from what others are saying over here, sure they are all valid ones!
but I think one should get off his chair and view a boat for himself and see what his prerogatives are, what might not be good for me might be just right for you
so a look at one at a boat show or in a marina and discussing what you dont like with a builders representative can always indicate a real picture of the situation
 
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definitely on my list of possibles in the future once they've depreciated a bit.

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I mean, I agree with other comments, the finishing is not as good as they pretend (though I've seen in flesh only the very first boat they made, in Croatia, some years ago).
And she is not a trawler, regardless of any ridiculous prize she might have been awarded as such.
But she's not that bad, either.
And since it's easy to predict that she'll suffer a quick depreciation, I guess that some good ones will be around at sensible prices, rather sooner than later.
So, if the type of boat suits your tastes, in your boots I wouldn't rule her out completely.
 
Funny how we were thinking along the same lines at the same time...
I didn't see your reply while I was writing mine!
I'm just not sure to be 100% with you on the bit concering builders representative giving a real picture of the situation, though! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Well, not all of them at least.
 
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Funny how we were thinkig along the same lines at the same time...
I didn't see your reply while I was writing mine!
I'm just not sure to be 100% with you on the bit concering builders representative giving a real picture of the situation, though! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Well, not all of them at least.

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Mapis I said discuss with him,
so you can have a feel on the product development etc it might as be hull no.1 as you say and might have a few mistakes here and there, which have been improved in later models, of which I sure a serious builders rep and up to the job can explain these situations
 
Well, of course builder reps can explain pros and cons of their boats better than anyone else, if they want.
Let's also assume that serious ones actually do.
But I can't imagine even the most serious between serious ones recommending a customer to go for a better alternative from a builder they don't deal with. Something which can and does happen here.
On the other hand, I agree that the forum can just give some hints, actual buying decisions should always involve much more than just reading or looking at pics.
 
Depends, I think Deleted User and Nautical are probably two of the most experienced boaty people on here, Son Vida maybe not too far behind, so all three of them slating the build quality a bit is certainly enough to cast a serious doubt.

I'd agree with your comments if they'd said they didn't like the layout, or the style, but a flexing flybridge, poor helm position, and sub-standard joinery isn't a matter of "what someones perogatives are", they're just poor design and craftsmanship, whichever way you look at them.
 
Not sure they're that far apart. The Skagen was around £650k at SIBS and that will be £700k+ now with the depreciation of the £/€ and I thought the Fleming was less than £1m at SIBS thanks to the weak $. Given that the Fleming is quite a lot bigger, I think it's fair to compare the two
 
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