Single handed mooring system

[claymore]

Peter thats all very well but Claymore's patio would not be conducive to such antics and the magnolias and gladioli would suffer I'm sure

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[Guest]

Stern to buoy, bow to pontoon ....

exactly the way my 1/4 ton boat in Tallinn is.

I added a couple of additions to my buoy to pontoon warp. My bowlines have lanyards attached to the buoy to pontoon warp so that I can pick these up when approaching the pontoon, after picking up the warp that is floating and handing back to sternman .... he wraps a turn around the cleat and eases it as we pull forward.
This way we can come in reasonably slowly. pick up the warp to control her speed and still get the bow lines on without hassle. Took a little convincing my estonian crew to make the change as they were used to jumping onto pontoon / quay grabbing bowline and bring back on board. Now they expect it whenever boat is re-launched for new season !

I disagre that it cannot be used in UK ..... why not ? as long as lines are set right there is absolutely no reason why not.

Oh yes - the hooks are great and many around me have the sprung hook type on a long pole ... the pole actually being part of the mooring line till in position and replaced. But with my continuous line from buoy to pontoon / quay - not needed.

We also always sail onto / off the mooring ! To sail off of course means the boat must be turned by hand - easy when you know how ....


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[Guest]

semi auto system ?

set up bight of line from bow out the fairleads ...... one end fixed and other led back along deck to cockpit. The bight of course led back outside all back to cockpit.
Slide up alongside buoy .... drop bight over .. allow it to sink below the buoy and then haul non-fixed end so that buoy is drawn forwrad to bow. Now the bight is effectively mooring the boat bows to the buoy. Making sure that fairleads etc. used are suitable and free running for rope ... probably better to use separate leads for each part.

Other way of course is single line led back with large loop in end and other end back to cockpit ..... drop over and then haul in drawing buoy forward. I prefer the bight method as its easier to withdraw the rope when proper mooring strop in place.


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[Mirelle]

UK has had such a device for about a century, now

No advertising on Scuttlebut, but it's the Davey Grabit boathook, made for this very purpose.

The hook, about the size and shape of a shepherd's crook, sits on the end of a pole, to which it is NOT screwed. A warp is secured to an eye on the back of the hook, and the warp is held in your hand, thereby holding the hook on the pole.

Catch the buoy and the hook falls off the pole, a spring loaded catch, kept open by the pole until now, closes it, and there we are, all done. replace the hook with another warp at your leisure...

Available from a handful of classic boat chandlers only....

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[peterb]

Re: UK has had such a device for about a century, now

Yes, Andrew, I know the Grabit. But the Baltic hooks are cheaper, and in some ways better. The length between the hook end and the eye end means that no latch is required (i.e. no moving parts), and the metre length is just about right for reaching down from the cockpit, with no need to separate from the boathook.

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[peterb]

Re: Stern to buoy, bow to pontoon ....

The difficulty in the UK is that the water goes up and down by 5 metres or more. If the bow is secured to a fixed wall (or similar) then the bow warps have to be long enough to allow for the rise and fall; if the bow is secured to a floating pontoon, then the stern line has to allow for similar movement.

Still, at least we can scrub off with the tide.........

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[Guest]

NOT the same animal as the Baltic job - sorry !

The Baltic version .... the pole is fixed to the hook and is part of the mooring till replaced with standing strop.

Know the one you mean and its a good bit of kit ..... but have seen some fun and games when people try using in some situations !!! Guy just across from me has both the fixed and the clip variety - usually uses the fixed variety ........



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[Guest]

Peterb - I agree nm

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[Guest]

Re: Stern to buoy, bow to pontoon ....

I keep 3 boats at present ..... 1 in UK, 1 in Latvia, 1 In Estonia.

I am fully aware of the tidal range in UK and also the 20cms or so we have in Baltic...... as you can imagine!

The secret to the use of such mooring is the buoy and its ground tackle - heavy enough to keep the boat 'pulled out' .... but I agree that in non-sheltered it would be a risky system. The other way of course is to make sure that the angle of the stern line is very low as near horizontal as poss - pulling the boat out with perhaps a weight supsended on it at midpoint.

It is not unknown for stern to or bow to mooring to be done in UK and in fact is not a problem in inland waters at all.

Your and my discussion here of course centres on saltwater usage.

I am happy with my alongside marina berth in UK .... , the stern to pontoon in Latvia and the bow to in Pirita Estonia.

Cheers


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[milltech]

Am I understanding this right, because I do something similar. I run a warp from forward outside of everything before approach, then I pick up the pick-up buoy midships, run the previously arranged warp through the handle and then walk it forward as the boat slips astern (or not), pulling it over the bow in the usual manner.

However I wouldn't regard a boat held this way, either on a warp done my way or run all the way aft as in any way secure. The pick-up buoy isn't intended to take a load, and as I can attest, if wind and tide come a bit strong for you the load will pop the pick-up buoy off the lead rope and the all will fall back into the briny, and out of reach.

I know all this because I did it last weekend!! SO, if I can't get the chain over the bow before the load comes on it will be better for me to drop it all and go round again, not to try and hold the boat on the pick-up buoy.

Actually I then lassoed the big buoy and held myself that way until I could get some yard assistance to retrieve the chain, which was done with a mix of help from below at water lever, and judicious use of the windlass to lift the big buoy clear of the water so the chain was revealed. It was a real pest though.

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[Mirelle]

I stand corrected - apologies

I like the Davey hook but seldom use it (see post below on addictions...)

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