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I *think* that the new westerley is fited out in the style of a little-known but very gorgeous sailing boat, aabout 36-39 feet long with open stern and clear decks very much like a Wally, only smaller. I saw one in antibes a week ago but can't remeber the name. They do have a website, somewhere, but can't remeber the name. I think the name begins with B (praps Bera?) and the boat is 38 feet long. Seeing the new westerley and the interior makes me feel they have attempted to imitate some aspects of the fitout. Any ideas?
 
interesting you should *think* so ... the pictures of the interior of the westerly look ordinary, basic ... perhaps it looks better in the flesh?
 
Well, there's the Brenta 38 , but that's really a daysailer.

Otherwise, there's the Mylius 11E25.
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which is really sparse below:
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http://www.mylius.it/stampa/YWjune05.jpg
 
.. finished with clear gel coat. RR & Bentley used to finish the paint job with many coats of clear thinner which gave a clear, hard, finish and a deep lustre .. maybe not the same!
 
This must be very much in eye of beholder. As posted on the westerly thread I dont think the new westerley is at all basic. I think it's a great step forward in yacht interiors, in the 35footer bracket
 
Hmm .. I see what you're getting at .. but I think Beneteau have had that sort of horizontally grained (at least, uniform) wood finish for some years
 
There's wood and there's wood. Really need to see in flesh. BenJen tend to use teak veneer and teak is one of the nicest woods when solid but horrid and plain when put through the veneer-making pencil sharpener machine, imho. The Westerly bathroom is streets ahead of any Jen Ben Bav 35 footer bathroom ever made.

Will make a point of looking at Soton show.
 
er, i think it\'s veneer

there's one pic (wardrobe i think, horizontal grain) where the wood repeats the same pattern whereby the same shape of knot occurs all the way up. The way to get that is to use matched veneers, from same bit of wood. If it was solid, there wd be no knot at all (veneer is made from cheaper bits, whereas solid planks are usually knot-free as on decks etc) OR if it were solid lumps glued together to make a big sheet the knot wd more quickly disappear.

It's quite nice mind, and uses "sported" choice of wood/veneer - showing more variation over the grain which is a bit more modernish and actually a bit cheaper. Not totally convinced it is teak - does it say it's teak? Whatever.

Note also the squareness - not a sure sign of veneer but an easy trick to pull off with veneer and a bit pointless from solid lunk of teak unless you really wanted it to look veneered...

Also, if it was solid teak (or whatever) it would weigh a blimmin ton and cost a bucket of loot - and they'd say wahoo look, solid teak!

I would also like it more if they didn't use the same drawer handles as 10 years ago, but i'm being awkward there. Couldn't find the bathroom pix. If there's wood in there it had better be solid else will fall apart really...

Best wait till sibs. Meanwhile i will bet a tenner that the "solid teak" on wardrobe doors at least is veneer.
 
Re: er, i agree it\'s veneer

Hang on tcm, I never said (afaik) that the Westerly wasn't veneer, nor that it was teak. The westerly clearly IS veneer, and ISN'T teak.

There's nothing wrong or downmarket in the furnitutre making world with using veneer. Much of the finest furniture in the world is veneered. So no marks deducted for westerley using veneer not solid.

It's not teak. I'm not sure what it is. The grain pattern looks a bit walnut. Eastern/Asian walnut is that dark golden colour, but tends to have finer grain. Other walnut has the strong grain pattern shown in the Westerly, but is usually chocolate brown dark. So I dunno what W'ly are using. But looks nice to my eye, compared to most AWB's which tend to use boring teak veneer. Teak makes for a boring looking veneer imho

Here's the only bathroom pic, showing I think a Tecma toilet. Yeehaa AWB's finally come into the 21st (or even 20th) cent! (No doubt someone will fret about what happens if battery goes flat zzzzz). The headlining fit isn't great BTW, a bit Oundlesque I'd say.

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Re: the bog

well, i admire your bog recognition skills if it really is a Tecma bog. The nice suopershiny sink is good, and the carbonfibre effect is quite wizz, tho bit worrying depending on wot it is actually made of. Minus point - the window seems non opening.

I had a look at some veneer pix, but no result.

Partly i don't like the boat cos it's a rehash of earlier boat with hohum much the same stuff, done a bit whackily silver paint on outside new wood on the inside - but not THAT whackily. I mean, if the boat is ooh swish, they should have at least some launch pix with nice duvets innem and soft reading lights, instead bare pic of hole for dumping kitbag. Cos i mean, silver with nice wood is obviously a slight tilt at the feminine element, no?

Otherwise, i nearly like the wood BUT it is is a bit radiogramish. Actually, very radiogramish....
 
Re: the bog

Hmm I'm sticking my neck out on the bog. I'm er 30% sure. I'd guess it's a Tecma Silence Standard model meself, and if I'm right I'll start up a bogspotters.com site. I'll email Andrej or whatever his name is, who posted on tother thread, to find out.

Agree all you say. It is far from perfect but it's a big improvement over benjen. As I said on the other thread "I think this is a great step forward in sub 40foot yacht interior design. One more step of this magnitude and you'd have a very cool yacht interior. Well done Westerly" So, i mean it's halfway towards bridging the gap between benjen styleless interiors and a cool interior

To be fair they are made in Slovenia or somewhere, so not so much access to nice ornamental nicknacks to liven up the photos? I dunno.
 
Re: the bog

Ooh, v intresting, though on a small boat a reckon it will be a Silence SHORT model, but here's a link for you for consideration.

http://www.tecma.net/nautica/silence/

I wd like to be considered as practical consultant for Tecma bogfixing projects as yet again i started the year by dismantling one to extract a lunk of bog paper which requires removing the rear screw (NOT the fwd ones) and then hoiking around the rear AND i have the all-important adapter thing which gets wrecked if ever anyone tries poking it with a coathangar - the recommended bog-clearing method is of course blowing down a lump of hose pipe.
 
Re: the bog

I have to say, compared to many yacht interiors, it's not at all bad.

Interesting, as tcm has said many, many times - yacht builders don't do good interiors on the whole, nor cater for swmbo opinion, and yet here are 3 mobo'ers commenting on progress, and raggies saying it's horrid.
 
Re: the bog

I agree that the interior is pretty good. One problem is that the photo's are of the as built interior with no other fittings, accessories, cushions, ornaments, etc around to soften it. Unless an already very detailed interior such is found on a very high quality custom build yacht then bare interiors in a stock boat, as out of the yard, and not yet inhabitied tend to look sterile.

I reckon it will come right once occupied. Hopefully in the brochure they will put a few "homelike" things around for the photos.

John
 
Re: the bog

No, if twas a SHORT model you wd be able to see a step in the floor, and there isnt one :-)

Anyway, turns out it is not a Tecma Silence at all. Andrej at the builders tells me it is the **VERY SIMILAR** vetus SMTO (which must be made for Vetus by someone else, but I dunno who, Headmistress will know I bet) viz:

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So I got it wrong /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif and will have to eat some, er, never mind. Still, it's a major advance for a sailboat to have a toilet without all the pipes showing, so still top marks to Westerley for this, imho
 
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