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Flung my Bruce into Lamlash Bay yesterday, quickly thereafter finding the shackle and pin nestling under the foresail on the deck - made an attractive twirly motion on the way down, minus chain!
A reminder, folks!
 
This could be the start of yet another anchor thread by suggesting that this was the best thing to do with a Bruce anchor.
 
halcyon23 said:
Flung my Bruce into Lamlash Bay yesterday, quickly thereafter finding the shackle and pin nestling under the foresail on the deck - made an attractive twirly motion on the way down, minus chain!
A reminder, folks!
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What is this idea of "flinging the anchor in" Anchors should be laid in the water while the boat is drifting backwards. This lays out the chain and anchor on the sea bed and averts having the chain wrapped around the anchor.
Sorry to hear of your loss and yes seizing of shackle pin is vital but I would always pick up my anchor by the chain and lower it in. Unless it is a very big anchor. Perhaps that is what happened. good luck olewill
 
halcyon23 said:
Flung my Bruce into Lamlash Bay yesterday, quickly thereafter finding the shackle and pin nestling under the foresail on the deck - made an attractive twirly motion on the way down, minus chain!
A reminder, folks!
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Where? Holy Isle or by the village?

I'm pretty sure the visitor moorings have been serviced- but you probably found that out anyway ;)
 
Years ago I was taught to select a shackle with an overlength pin for the purpose. A single thread protruding is sufficient. Lock the pin with Loctite or similar and then peen the rotruding section over to prevent it working. Of course, it does mean you can only part the anchor from the chain with a hacksaw...

Rob.
 
SHUG said:
This could be the start of yet another anchor thread by suggesting that this was the best thing to do with a Bruce anchor.
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Here we go again. NEVER had a problem with my Bruce no matter what the weather threw at it. Lets face it, it's a bit like re-inventing the wheel at this stage of the game. Anchor manufacturers have got to think of a way to keep sales going so out comes another one, and another one etc.

I'd hate to lose my Bruce !!
 
Seize those shackles

When we bought our boat, all the screw pin shackles (including the anchor joining shackle) had been seized, thanks to the previous owner.

This is what you need. Belt and braces? no harm in using some thread loctite or similar as well.

Cheers,

Michael.
 
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rascacio said:
Here we go again. NEVER had a problem with my Bruce no matter what the weather threw at it.
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... and I have twice anchored in Lulworth Cove using a Bruce and picked up a boulder that was a perfect fit in the anchor. As the weather was benign and it was only a lunch stop, the boulders were not discovered until we left. On the second occasion it took the mate and a couple of the crew about 5 minutes to prise the boulder out of the anchor. As the boat was a 58-footer, I would not have relished trying to anchor with one of those boulders in anything more than a light breeze.

But that comment's a bit of Fred Drift
 
vyv_cox said:
Yes indeed. I have carried out long term tests on 243 and found it very effective. Ideal for the countersunk pins on anchor shackles and swivels.
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If one uses such a product and then subsequently wish to unscrew the 243'd article, is it possible to unscrew it?
 
emandvee44 said:
When we bought our boat, all the screw pin shackles (including the anchor joining shackle) had been seized, thanks to the previous owner.

This is what you need. Belt and braces? no harm in using some thread loctite or similar as well.

Cheers,

Michael.
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I just use small cable ties, they do the job and can be cut off with one snip without ickle bits of wire sticking into my fingers :)
 
Was straight out from the Co-op, I was in a rush to get some grub before they closed and I went close inshore at low tide, around 6' deep. I'd planned to grapple around for it next low tide but Sunday morn was windy and I couldn't find it. I suspect trying to lift a bruce up would be problemmatical (?) with no chain or ring attached (seasearcher?) Used to have one of those but I lost that over the side as well, ha ha. Next time I visit the wetsuit's coming!
Good sail back to Troon on Sunday, 2 1/2hrs
 
halcyon23 said:
Was straight out from the Co-op, I was in a rush to get some grub before they closed and I went close inshore at low tide, around 6' deep. I'd planned to grapple around for it next low tide but Sunday morn was windy and I couldn't find it. I suspect trying to lift a bruce up would be problemmatical (?) with no chain or ring attached (seasearcher?) Used to have one of those but I lost that over the side as well, ha ha. Next time I visit the wetsuit's coming!
Good sail back to Troon on Sunday, 2 1/2hrs
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I have one of those magnets, and unless your anchor is huge it would have no difficulty picking it up. Just to test it I put mine on a 60 lb CQR, and it lifted it. Dragged along the bottom it might find the anchor even if you cannot see it. (Mind you, the only time I ever had to use it for real it was to recover a screwdriver from the bottom of the marina.)
 
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Robih said:
If one uses such a product and then subsequently wish to unscrew the 243'd article, is it possible to unscrew it?
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Yes. Loctite 243 is classed as 'Removable' and bolts can be unscrewed quite easily. I have also looked at 263, which is the high strength version. This also releases reasonably easily. The main point of my investigation was to find whether they were affected by prolonged immersion in seawater, which they were not.

Product info is at http://www.useloctite.com/products/index.php
 
vyv_cox said:
Yes. Loctite 243 is classed as 'Removable' and bolts can be unscrewed quite easily. I have also looked at 263, which is the high strength version. This also releases reasonably easily. The main point of my investigation was to find whether they were affected by prolonged immersion in seawater, which they were not.

Product info is at http://www.useloctite.com/products/index.php
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Hmm..I just used contact adhesive when I shackled on my new chain a couple of weeks ago. Would that be inferior to locktite?
 
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