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I know this should go on the back but..
I would like some sort of fitting so I can fit an electric outboard onto my Laurent Giles Jolly Boat.
When I built her I decided not to bother with the outboard well because I knew I would always be reaching for the starter cord rather than learning to sail her.Now I've decided a small electric outboard might make me use her more,but don't want to cut a large hole in her bottom. The transom mounted brackets would be difficult to reach over the raked transom and the mizzen would be in the way so i thought some sort of S/Steel fabrication on the side that will take a plate and then the outboard should be easier.
I have access to a great fabricator but wondered if anyone had been here before, and could help with the design.
 
A similar arrangement is sometimes used on open canoes. Of course, the thrust is much closer to the centreline on a canoe, but if the outboard can be locked with the line of thrust pointing roughly at the bows it should remain manageable (rather than going round in circles).

I don't know the Jolly Boat, so can't offer any design advice. On a canoe, the bracket simply goes across clamping onto both gunwhales. A Google search should give you some idea whether this sort of arrangement would suit you.

Rob.
 
There have been threads about this before: Dragons used to do it with an incredible arrangement of a board and a couple of G-Cramps.
I had one made up to go on the side deck of an 1898 Bembridge Redwing, having borrowed the design from that used by the Victory Class (Portsmouth), which also has side decks.
There is a fixed stainless plate about 9x5 ins on the side deck with 2 small locating pegs, and a central boss with a hole in it. The bracket is a corresponding flat plate with holes to take the locating pegs and central boss, and with a broad flange beefed up with ply to take the outboard. A Lynch pin (R-Clip) through the hole in the boss holds the 2 plates together. The flange faces the "Wrong way", so the o/b motor needs to be very firmly tightened up, as it is acting at rt angles to the plate. It is a simple matter to dismount/ remount the plate and the o/b motor, and...It works! In a rolling sea it can get dunked.
Unfortunately, I cant find a photograph just now, but will look for the previous thread. Good luck!
 
Outboard

Thanks guys, the links from this are great.
I'll get on the boat and see what looks the easiest way to go.
This forum is quicker than Google.
 
I had a Gloster Saro dayboat, with a detachable side mounted bracket for a long shaft Seagull outboard.
All worked well until you were passed by a passing coaster, when the boat would roll and the outboard would cough and splutter, but still run even when the electrics have been below the water.
So my word of warning, is you will need an outboard which can run underwater!
 
biscuit said:
I had one made up to go on the side deck of an 1898 Bembridge Redwing, having borrowed the design from that used by the Victory Class (Portsmouth), which also has side decks.
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Yep.. long time ago I raced Victories for a couple of seasons and remember this vaguely... seem to remember a wooden beam that was attached to the side and the engine sat on it in the usual manner... trying desperately to remember how the wooden beam was attached to the boat, and I think all they did was use a couple of large bolts with butterfly nuts which went through the beam and into the deck... sorry long time ago..:o
 
Side mounted O/B bracket

If the OP is proposing to use an electric O/B then he would be far better off fitting decent oars and rowlocks as having similar power but symetrical thrust and endless (maybe) endurance.
Certainly a side mounted O/B will not be any good when sailing wit the boat heeled.
good luck olewill
 
pappaecho said:
I had a Gloster Saro dayboat, with a detachable side mounted bracket
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Brother still has one! built to the same standards as ships lifeboats in the old Flying Boat factory on Anglesey.

Side mounting was fine in calm conditions but useless if you wanted to motor Sail as any angle of heel resulted in either drowning the OB or it running in air!

A good long sweep oar and whip in the hands of the Helm was sufficient to give up to 4 knots!

Side mounting was a steel fabrication with two large wing studs that held it on by screwing into glassed in threaded inserts in the raised Gunwhale.
 
What I am doing with my double ended dinghy is making an outboard bracket which fits on to the rudder gudgeons. I got a pair of pintles and I am making up a "rudder" with a crossbar to take the outboard.
 
William_H said:
If the OP is proposing to use an electric O/B then he would be far better off fitting decent oars and rowlocks as having similar power but symetrical thrust and endless (maybe) endurance.
Certainly a side mounted O/B will not be any good when sailing wit the boat heeled.
good luck olewill
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Agreed - on the Victories it was an either/or scenario... :D
 
Outboard

Thanks for all your comments.
The idea is to only attach the outboard when the wind fails and we are too far from the launch point to row,although the idea of a pair of long oars is very tempting, but they are not easy to store in the boat while sailing.
I treated myself to a sculling oar a long time back but again I can only keep it attached to a shroud and I can't scull!!!
 
glynnffc said:
I know this should go on the back but..
I would like some sort of fitting so I can fit an electric outboard onto my Laurent Giles Jolly Boat.
When I built her I decided not to bother with the outboard well because I knew I would always be reaching for the starter cord rather than learning to sail her.Now I've decided a small electric outboard might make me use her more,but don't want to cut a large hole in her bottom. The transom mounted brackets would be difficult to reach over the raked transom and the mizzen would be in the way so i thought some sort of S/Steel fabrication on the side that will take a plate and then the outboard should be easier.
I have access to a great fabricator but wondered if anyone had been here before, and could help with the design.
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Side-Mount Outboard Engine Bracket - Large

https://edsonmarine.com/content/Side_Mount_Outboard_Engine_Bracket_Large_(Specs).pdf

Bit fancy, only seems to go one side (unless you fit 2) snd doesn't address submersion. For that I suppose a sealed cowling with a schnorkel might help.
 
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