SIBS Photos

Just spoken to a lovey lady at Marlow at 9:30 this morning, who politely said "Sorry, we"re no longer allowing people on to take photographs on board"

So that's that, no offer of an appointment, or a chance to get a nice 360º panorama inside for everone to see what they are missing.

Shame really, but it's their boat that can choose, who views and who doesn't....We're just trying to give you guys n girls the best coverage of the show and the boats, it's dissapointing that Marlow won't grant us access.

btw it's the first time in 8 years of photographing boats at various shows world wide when this has happened to me (inc the likes of Feretti, Benetti, Mangusta, Azimut, Sunseeker et al)....I've been turned away when it's busy, and allowed back, which is understandable, but when I was waiting in the rain for longer than it would take to do a 360 shot, it's all a bit strange

But this is what she looked like on the way to the show....
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They can't stop me taking those!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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If it was me, I would have been a bit more liberal. In fact I stood there with Major Catastrophe and was not in a position to invite him on the boat. I did not want to offend anyone.

[/ QUOTE ] And I didn't ask as that would have been incredibly rude of me to put you in a potentially embarrassing position. My jokes about the young lady on the gangplank were mainly to liven up a story, but she WAS very efficient in turning away other people. She didn't turn me away, because I never asked her to go on board.

There is a very fine line between a potential buyer and a rubbernecker and Marlow had to make a policy and generally stick to it especially, as you have pointed out, Marlow like to give indvidual prospects the full tour. However, gossip is the lifeblood of the industry and allowing more people to have a look aboard must be worth more than a page of journalistic crap (I am a journalist myself and I know I write a lot of crap!). So two 'Golden Hours' a day would be a good idea to allow other peope to have a brief tour. After all, if they stick to the policy of only allowing good prospects with an appointment on board, why attend a public show with all the additional expense?
 
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No doubt the flashgun was fading the fabric.

They have quite a bit to learn about PR don't they.

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The 360 degree system I've got doesn't use flash...and I couldn't possibly pass judgement about their PR education /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I think thats the problem - the paying public think that the ticket price should give them access to everything from the dinghies to EJ's Squeeker. The vendors however are there purely to sell boats and build brand recognition.

I fall into the camp that the vendors get to say who goes on their boats - mainly because I've been in the position where a vendor wanted to use my boat at a show and I damn well wanted some limits on access. However that was for a small manufacturer who doesn't have stock boats in general - every boat built is for a customer so thats all they can take to a show. Marlow are in the same boat so to speak - just one boat available that is a customers.

I guess if you don't like that policy, then you won't be buying their boats, or possibly avoiding the shows too.

Rick
 
What do you think their attitude has done for their "brand recognition"?

I'll keep doing the shows because there are plenty of Exhibitors happy to let me on their boats, even the very expensive ones.

I have no problem with "accompanied viewing" but this seems to br rather extreme
 
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I think thats the problem - the paying public think that the ticket price should give them access to everything from the dinghies to EJ's Squeeker. The vendors however are there purely to sell boats and build brand recognition.

I fall into the camp that the vendors get to say who goes on their boats - mainly because I've been in the position where a vendor wanted to use my boat at a show and I damn well wanted some limits on access. However that was for a small manufacturer who doesn't have stock boats in general - every boat built is for a customer so thats all they can take to a show. Marlow are in the same boat so to speak - just one boat available that is a customers.

I guess if you don't like that policy, then you won't be buying their boats, or possibly avoiding the shows too.

Rick

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i think the Benettis, Bagliettos and Mangusta that I boarded in Genova, as explained by the reps where all custom builds and allready owned sold etc
still they always managed to give a poor little man like me a tour
 
I suspect they have a higher profile now than they did before the show which I guess was the point of them being there.

I'm there on Friday - I'll see if I can have a look and let them know that you're not interested /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rick
 
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Ask them for an appointment and take a good look at the boat. Your opinion would be interestingt.

I have no axe to grind. The fact that they have offended some people means that they need to change and improve but they simply have to respsect the views of the owner.

With my trader at LBS I asked for accompanied only viewing - no just walking on. My boat was damaged and not all that damage was reapired some 18 months later. I know that the UK Marlow people will really look after the boat and will comply with the owners wishes to the last detail. Never the less they do need to improve thier handling of the situation.

Say i am asked to show my 72 ELR at SIBS?
I would impose restrictions full stop yet I am happy to show her to any forumites when i do my round UK trip but those visits and tours will be with me - just like taking friends on board.

AT LBS I ended up with slit cushions, damaged GRP and scratches on a boat that I had not even taken delivery of at that point. I had to fight and struggle to get these fixed but never did succeed in getting it all done.

Anyone can make an appointment to see the Marlow. I think they could operate a timed thing which was accompanied but was quick tour trips and at other times full tour trips.

I do not understand the photo ban and cosnider that silly.

My video studio computer crashed last night - now in a the middle of a long CHKDSK recovery. I will post the video when its fixed.
 
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On a photo on another post you can see the notice on the Transom gate that starts with the word WARNING. Cor how customer friendly is that.

[/ QUOTE ]Well, I argued in "defense" of Marlow in my previous posts, but I'm totally with you on this.
That notice is stupid, period.
 
Paul, in Major post, together with the aft pic with the notice we're talking about, there was also the following.
What was wrong with that poor windlass, to tie it up like a prisoner?...
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Explorer yacts UK - the Uk agent for Marlow are the same people as Trader Yachts Wales - they have stopped selling the Traders and gone over to the Marlow. I have no idea who introduced them to Marlow and no idea why the abandoned Trader /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I do know that they are honest people to deal with.

I met David marlow at SIBS and asked him why the 72c was just over 80 foot and the 72 ELR was onoly 77 feet - he explained that the figures were transposed and hence my bioat is now a tad over 80 feet!!! Gets longer by the day!
 
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Gets longer by the day

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So the viagra's working /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Yup, blimey! Sounds lots of fun though, hope all goes well.

Tiny point Gludy, but what's the point of big anchor overhang gizmo. And the fact that there is a longer effective overhang for the smaller anchor, on the SIBS boat? Is there some technical reason for it all? Can't figure it out
 
Swansea
Without the anchor bit at the front she is 77 feet and is called a 72 footer ie 72ELS. She has a beam of just over 20 foot.


I can only get through the inner lock on free flow but I will be away from there a lot of the time.

She can cruise at 9 knots with 120 hp of the third engine with a range over over 4000 miles.
With C18 (1000hp each) in her she can do 24 knots WOT and cruside at 19 knots - the bigger engine option C32.s (about 1500 hp each) could take her to about 31 knots crusie 24/25.

The anchors chosen by the owner of the boat at SIBS means that one anchor is held differntly to the other. It will nake sense when you see the video with commentory.
 
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