boatone
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Information on the British Rowing website re EA registration charges shows that from 1st April this year, rowing club coaching and rescue launches will pay a registration fee of £35 (previously they were exempt).
Should please Apollo !
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oldgit
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Perhaps we ARE all in this together ?
Ramage
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And the much screamed about discount on the rowed craft amounts to £11.50 per boat.
Chris_d
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In Apollo's absense 
it seems a bit cheap, for my 2m tender with titchy outboard it will still cost £41.50 and thats with the half price discount!
it seems a bit cheap, for my 2m tender with titchy outboard it will still cost £41.50 and thats with the half price discount!
apollo
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In Apollo's absense
Here here!
boatone
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One could argue that, if a fair pricing system exists, there should be absolutely no justification for any discounts on the published rates.
There I go, dreaming again .........
There I go, dreaming again .........
apollo
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Precisely....
Ramage
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One could argue that, if a fair pricing system exists, there should be absolutely no justification for any discounts on the published rates.
There I go, dreaming again .........
Hmm, a discount for registration of multiple boats... like cruisers now get for a tender?
Wouldn't it be better to call for a discount if a boat club collected all the registration fees? ( I bet club treasurers would hate the job though!).
boatone
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The whole charging regime needs re-addressing from the bottom up. The Thames is not a commodity based business. Discounts do not and cannot bring in extra business - i.e. more cash - they simply reduce income.
British Rowing do actually relieve the EA of an administrative burden by collecting the registration fees through their clubs, which could be argued to carry some limited cost saving. However, the fact is that direct revenue income from the rowing fraternity is pretty small beer compared with the contribution from powered craft.
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No Regrets
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In Apollo's absense
Get a bigger one!?
CJL
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Hmmmm.....as a charity I am not very happy that rescue launches now have to pay £35.
We'll just pass it on to the organisers but it is another barrier to these events having decent levels of safety cover and marshalling.
CJL
We'll just pass it on to the organisers but it is another barrier to these events having decent levels of safety cover and marshalling.
CJL
boatone
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May be a misunderstanding here. The coaching and rescue craft referred to are the regular river based ones belonging to the rowing clubs themselves.Hmmmm.....as a charity I am not very happy that rescue launches now have to pay £35.
We'll just pass it on to the organisers but it is another barrier to these events having decent levels of safety cover and marshalling.
CJL
CJL
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Well I hope so but I can see the argument that we aren't different.
We do try to make things safer but it can be very challenging at times!
CJL
We do try to make things safer but it can be very challenging at times!
CJL
bradtarga34
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I don't quite understand why you think that a rescue boat should be exempt? If its being used on the river then some sort of license charge should be expected, and at £35.00 it is a very nominal charge. Considering how many people would benefit from the service, recouping this charge would surely amount to pence per person...
Gavi
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Agreed... and in our reach these are the boats that cause the most wash and disturbance!
CJL
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Unfortunately some events are not run very well and the £270 - £335/hr some commercial organisations charge means that event organisers either put costs up or reduce the level of safety cover.
I can assure you now that 100 scullers won't fit on one 6m rib!
Instead we don't charge - we just ask for our expenses to be covered and this would include the £35 registration cost. Which then brings us back to the start of the vicious circle!!
Makes no difference to me- it just does to the rowers and other river users that we support.
Gavi - I can assure 110% it wasn't any of our boats causing you any wash but I can certainly point you in some directions!!!
One of my biggest concerns is the number of safety boats being used by events. We've been asked to provide 2 ribs for events on the R Nene over a 4km course. You just can't do that as if we had to travel to an incident -sure we'd get there but we'd leave a trail of destruction in our wake of other rowers and river users which isn't on! Using more safety boats which in turn creates less wash is the only answer I can see.
Plus I only use my "free licence" for safety cover and on the odd occasion I go on the Thames just as a regular boat owner - down to the pub for lunch for example, I buy I visitor licence. Not many people would do that!! I suppose with my £35 licence I would be less inclined to continue doing that! Oh and our boats are NOT kept afloat.
CJL
I can assure you now that 100 scullers won't fit on one 6m rib!
Instead we don't charge - we just ask for our expenses to be covered and this would include the £35 registration cost. Which then brings us back to the start of the vicious circle!!
Makes no difference to me- it just does to the rowers and other river users that we support.
Gavi - I can assure 110% it wasn't any of our boats causing you any wash but I can certainly point you in some directions!!!
One of my biggest concerns is the number of safety boats being used by events. We've been asked to provide 2 ribs for events on the R Nene over a 4km course. You just can't do that as if we had to travel to an incident -sure we'd get there but we'd leave a trail of destruction in our wake of other rowers and river users which isn't on! Using more safety boats which in turn creates less wash is the only answer I can see.
Plus I only use my "free licence" for safety cover and on the odd occasion I go on the Thames just as a regular boat owner - down to the pub for lunch for example, I buy I visitor licence. Not many people would do that!! I suppose with my £35 licence I would be less inclined to continue doing that! Oh and our boats are NOT kept afloat.
CJL
CJL
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Totally agree.
But it does discourage adequate safety cover and increases the barriers to participation in the water sports we enjoy for younger and less well off individuals.
Shouldn't we encouraging participation, not making it harder and more expensive?
CJL
jecuk
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I can assure you now that 100 scullers won't fit on one 6m rib!
Not sure 100 scullers typically fall in at once.
As said, likely this doesn't apply to you. At £35 silly to argue against to be honest even if it does.
CJL
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As I've said, makes not one bit of difference to us, but why the change all of a sudden?
In the past they have been encouraged, now they are effectively being discouraged and it risks being seen as an excuse.
CJL
In the past they have been encouraged, now they are effectively being discouraged and it risks being seen as an excuse.
CJL
No Regrets
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Do you seriously think £35 p.a. is going to make a blind bit of difference to a club whose boat is used, say three days a week and shared between ten to twenty boats?
£0.60p per week...
Get a grip man!!
£0.60p per week...
Get a grip man!!