brianrunyard
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I think he was making the point that although more powerful, it was cheaper and lighter
Should I buy a 2-stroke?
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brianrunyard
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The large modern 2 strokes match the 4 strokes on emissions and economy, take a look at the big Evinrude E-Tech.
Niander
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Seagull 102 ftw!...pure classic!
ex-Gladys
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2 strokes are only not sold in the marine retail trade. They are still allowed for commercial use.... Go figure that one out...
rays
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Thanks for all the opinions. I have placed my order for a 2-stroke today!
PeterGibbs
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Just been through exactly the same thinking. Got a Mercury 3.3 hp - perfect. Excellent runner too. Sorted the problem of knocking holes in the deck as it was lowered to the rubber duck.
Go 2 stroke with confidence.
PWG
Go 2 stroke with confidence.
PWG
ShipsWoofy
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Not that I am against 2 stroke explicitly, but I have no wish to go back to seeing the streak of pollution pouring out from behind my tender..
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I'm of the opinion that the last generation of two strokes together with the advances made in oil technology are much better. My Mariner 3.3 doesn't leave a trail. (note to self..Check when warmer weather arrives)
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Maybe, the engine I dumped was bought 2nd hand and was eating spark plugs at silly rates. I tried different oil mixtures and hotter / colder plugs without joy. I had damaged the fuel tank and the petrol tap would leak if it wasn't just in the right position. I was using daft amounts of fuel.. It was time for a change.
I went 4T as above, but also the messing with oils, having to have a tub of oil in the car and on the boat, having to keep a stock of spark plugs, I just fancied the cleanness of 4 stroke.
I think being a catamaran helped too, it is not a big problem to keep the outboard upright, so that was one off the tick list.
I probably would have bought 2T if I could find one that did the mix during the input rather than having to 'shake the damn can'. Why, if lawn mowers can feed oil from a reservoir can't outboards. That would have swung it for me.
I find the 4T takes far longer to come up to temp, as the winter gets colder I am having to re-learn choke control.. Would an auto choke be so difficult, they are generally really simple devices!
I guess each option cost valuable oz.
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Not that I am against 2 stroke explicitly, but I have no wish to go back to seeing the streak of pollution pouring out from behind my tender..
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I'm of the opinion that the last generation of two strokes together with the advances made in oil technology are much better. My Mariner 3.3 doesn't leave a trail. (note to self..Check when warmer weather arrives)
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Maybe, the engine I dumped was bought 2nd hand and was eating spark plugs at silly rates. I tried different oil mixtures and hotter / colder plugs without joy. I had damaged the fuel tank and the petrol tap would leak if it wasn't just in the right position. I was using daft amounts of fuel.. It was time for a change.
I went 4T as above, but also the messing with oils, having to have a tub of oil in the car and on the boat, having to keep a stock of spark plugs, I just fancied the cleanness of 4 stroke.
I think being a catamaran helped too, it is not a big problem to keep the outboard upright, so that was one off the tick list.
I probably would have bought 2T if I could find one that did the mix during the input rather than having to 'shake the damn can'. Why, if lawn mowers can feed oil from a reservoir can't outboards. That would have swung it for me.
I find the 4T takes far longer to come up to temp, as the winter gets colder I am having to re-learn choke control.. Would an auto choke be so difficult, they are generally really simple devices!
I guess each option cost valuable oz.
brianrunyard
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2 strokes are only not sold in the marine retail trade. They are still allowed for commercial use.... Go figure that one out...
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That applies to traditional 2 strokes, as they can't be made compliant.
2 Strokes are still legal to buy for the Retail trade, provided they meet the new emission laws, which the Direct Injection 2 strokes do.
Look here Mariner Optimax
and here E Tec advert
Tohatsu is another example of new 2 strokes that are available.
All these are Direct injection.
It's the old carburettor 2 strokes that can't meet the emission regs.
2 strokes are only not sold in the marine retail trade. They are still allowed for commercial use.... Go figure that one out...
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That applies to traditional 2 strokes, as they can't be made compliant.
2 Strokes are still legal to buy for the Retail trade, provided they meet the new emission laws, which the Direct Injection 2 strokes do.
Look here Mariner Optimax
and here E Tec advert
Tohatsu is another example of new 2 strokes that are available.
All these are Direct injection.
It's the old carburettor 2 strokes that can't meet the emission regs.