JKay
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It has on my boat ,ours is mounted within the cockpit canopy area under the dash
shore power socket/plug
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It has on my boat ,ours is mounted within the cockpit canopy area under the dash
VicS
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It refers to the connector on the boat.
An IP 44 connector will have to be in an IP55 enclosure or protected from the weather
The meanings of the IP classification is as follows
For the first digit:
0 = No protection
1 = Protected against objects greater than 50 mm diameter
2 = Protected against objects greater than 12 mm diameter
3 = Protected against objects greater than 2.5 mm diameter
4 = Protected against objects greater than 1.0 mm diameter
5 = Dust protected
6 = Dust tight
For the second digit:
0 = Not protected
1 = Protected against dripping water (i.e. vertical plane)
2 = Protected against dripping water up to 15 degree angle
3 = Protected against spraying water
4 = Protected against splashing water
5 = Protected against water jets
6 = Protected against heavy seas
7 = Protected against effects of immersion
8 = Protected against submersion
William_H
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Regulations
Yes of course a mounted plug that you can fit an extension cord into is far safer and tidier. However the regs here in Oz provide that when there is a peramnent installation it must be to code by a licenced electrician. Wheras the temporary cord to a double adapter or socket board is temporary and therefor legal. So much cheaper. good luck olewill
Yes of course a mounted plug that you can fit an extension cord into is far safer and tidier. However the regs here in Oz provide that when there is a peramnent installation it must be to code by a licenced electrician. Wheras the temporary cord to a double adapter or socket board is temporary and therefor legal. So much cheaper. good luck olewill
viago
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about the same here and judging from the replies from the guys here, rightly so.
it is looking like i can put a ip44 receiving plug in here as long as it is protected from the weather a bit. i am privileged to have these guys to help me in all i want to do. god bless the internet and the generosity of the people here. im thinking of mounting the intake plug in a cockpit open storage space and fitting a cover. cling film should suffice lol.
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Ruffles
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I believe a lot of people fit the connector inside the cockpit locker. Saves cutting any huge holes...
Ex-SolentBoy
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Here's the dogs whatsits.
http://www.onboardenergydirect.com/...061-hubbell-ship-to-shore-32a-boat-inlet.html
http://www.onboardenergydirect.com/...061-hubbell-ship-to-shore-32a-boat-inlet.html
puddock
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ithet
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Probably because he cannot find a waterproof (IP65) flush fitting covered 16A plug! If you want a flush inlet your choices are either the waterproof Marinco style ones (expensive) or the splash proof caravan type (cheap). What would be ideal would be a standard 16A inlet with a waterproof cover at a reasonable cost. No manufacturer seems to see a market for making this (or regs don't allow?). So the only other option is to put a surface plug inside something like a locker.
viago
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there is one, an ip67, http://essentialsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/EAW240_16_W.jpg which is a bit of an eyesore but i guess ill have to use it unless i go for the cockpit locker idea and hope it meets regs.
dont worry im not going to touch the job myself but i want to be able to suggest acceptable alternatives to my electrician (more used to working on gin palaces, he wants to fit 4k's worth of gadgets and put 200metres of cable in!).
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ithet
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Not flush and with a waterproof cover! Thats exactly what I meant by a surface mounted inlet that will have to be fitted inside something for protection. Its not at all waterproof when nowt plugged in!
The is not a 'plug' version of the socket linked in the first post.
viago
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no its not, and no its not, but it is rated as ip67, which is odd, as you seem to be correct about its water resistance when not in use. id be better off using the ip44 tow shop one, which has a cover, in a sheltered location.
ithet
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Yes, I think the IP67 rating is only valid when connected in permanent use? I agree, the ones with the spring cover are more suitable for how you intend (are forced to) use them.
Sorry I meant to say:
There is not a 'plug' version of the socket linked in the first post.
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KellysEye
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>the device you show is a socket that provides power not to receive power
That device is dangerous as the male plug that supplies the shore power will have "Live" pins exposed.
I'm confused by that. It look to me like a standard fitting where the pins go into the holes and the outer casing of the plug slots into the round flange. Thus no pins exposed and watertight, or am I missing something.
That device is dangerous as the male plug that supplies the shore power will have "Live" pins exposed.
I'm confused by that. It look to me like a standard fitting where the pins go into the holes and the outer casing of the plug slots into the round flange. Thus no pins exposed and watertight, or am I missing something.
greenalien
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Just think of the domestic equivalent. The wall sockets have the power, the appliance has the plug that goes into it. This 16A stuff is just the industrial equivalent.
I'd use one of these, installed inside a cockpit locker :
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/pe1663smb/wall-mount-inlet-240v/dp/PL08949
VicS
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The bit that would be dangerous is the plug on the end of the lead that plugs into it. It would have exposed, possibly live, pins
As I said earlier the illustrated fitting is a power outlet socket. Not a power inlet fitting!
If you are confused by this please do not attempt to do your own electrics
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xyachtdave
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As long as he remembers to plug the boat end of his lead in first he should be ok.......!
VicS
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maybe but you can never be sure no one will pull out the boat end while the other end is still connected ashore
Pointless argument anyway when you can fit the correct connectors.
Perhaps you left the smiley off the end of your post.
viago
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how about this: View attachment 16643 View attachment 16645 View attachment 16646
found it in marine bazaar unpriced. got it for £3.50 cash
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Stork_III
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Have you got the plug to go in it. Doesn't look like a standard blue fitting. How does the plug lock on?
viago
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my extension lead is a push fit both ends. looked like the suggestion from greenalien to the untrained eye, oh well, maybe these are standard on his home planet. if this is no good ill take it back in the morning.