shore power socket/plug

[viago]

im getting round to electrics and want to avoid the absurd costs of the "internationally recognised system" of getting power on board.
i am also not impressed with the plug inlet system and see no benefit of it over a socket intake.
my question is, will a boat surveyor get aerated if i use http://www.discountelectric.co/imag...ket_IP67_16_amp_2P-E_230v_GW62227-500x500.jpg.
the price point is more on the money and as ip67 it meets water resistance requirements.
thank you for your views.

 

[sailorman]

im getting round to electrics and want to avoid the absurd costs of the "internationally recognised system" of getting power on board.
i am also not impressed with the plug inlet system and see no benefit of it over a socket intake.
my question is, will a boat surveyor get aerated if i use http://www.discountelectric.co/imag...ket_IP67_16_amp_2P-E_230v_GW62227-500x500.jpg.
the price point is more on the money and as ip67 it meets water resistance requirements.
thank you for your views.

the device you show is a socket that provides power not to receive power
That device is dangerous as the male plug that supplies the shore power will have "Live" pins exposed.

 

[Hugh Foulis]

Have you tried Machine Mart or Toolstation or Screwfix or better yet CPC. I think my plug and socket came from Towsure and were about £2.50 each. Shhh dont tell anyone though.

HF

 

[VicS]

It appears to be a socket for use as a power outlet.

The connector on the boat will have pins to mate with female receptacles on the connector at the boat end of the shorepower lead.

If the connector on the lead has pins, as it will have to connect with the fitting you show, it will be dangerous.

You may be able to avoid high "marine" prices by buying caravanning equipment

 

[viago]

thank you sailorman. back to finding a plug intake.
any ideas?

 

[viago]

Have you tried Machine Mart or Toolstation or Screwfix or better yet CPC. I think my plug and socket came from Towsure and were about £2.50 each. Shhh dont tell anyone though.

HF

do you have a permanent entry intake fixed to the boat?

 

[VicMallows]

i am also not impressed with the plug inlet system and see no benefit of it over a socket intake.

If you can't work it out, I question whether you should be doing the electrics?

Don't know why you are finding any significant price difference between bulkhead plug and bulkhead socket.

 

[maby]

thank you sailorman. back to finding a plug intake.
any ideas?

I'm surprised you are having a problem finding one - they are installed on virtually every boat afloat - Force 4?

This, for example, though I have to admit it is expensive :

http://www.force4.co.uk/9606/Marinco-16A-Non-Metallic-Shore-Power-Inlet.html

sure you can find cheaper!

(as in :

http://www.force4.co.uk/1073/Force-4-Flush-Mounted-Plug.html

)

 

[VicS]

thank you sailorman. back to finding a plug intake.
any ideas?

Towsure as mentioned.

Almost any caravan accessory shop

 

[viago]

I'm surprised you are having a problem finding one - they are installed on virtually every boat afloat - Force 4?

This, for example, though I have to admit it is expensive :

http://www.force4.co.uk/9606/Marinco-16A-Non-Metallic-Shore-Power-Inlet.html

sure you can find cheaper!

(as in :

http://www.force4.co.uk/1073/Force-4-Flush-Mounted-Plug.html

)

this is the sort of thing that drives me do distraction. its worth about £3-4
your second example would require a massive hole.
thanks anyway but i spoke to force 4 about that intake earlier today

 

[bammylovechops]

Equally if not cheaper, an electrical wholesaler like City Electrical Factors (C.E.F.) etc, it is commonly known as a 16 Amp 3 three pin connector.

 

[VicS]

If you are installing your own shorepower system you should make yourself familiar with ISO 13297

There may now be a new version .. but i do not have a link to it

 

[VicS]

this is the sort of thing that drives me do distraction. its worth about £3-4
your second example would require a massive hole.
thanks anyway but i spoke to force 4 about that intake earlier today

Force 4 only stock the Marinco type I think. They are EXPENSIVE

 

[JKay]

this is the sort of thing that drives me do distraction. its worth about £3-4
your second example would require a massive hole.
thanks anyway but i spoke to force 4 about that intake earlier today

http://www.towsure.com/product/Surface_Mounting_Caravan_Mains_Electric_Inlet

flush mounted inlet for a fiver

 

[Hugh Foulis]

do you have a permanent entry intake fixed to the boat?

I have a surface mounted plug permanently attached to the boat. The pins are shrouded by the tunnel that the socket fits over. Its fitted so that the canvas cover over the wheelhouse keeps the rain off. Electricity comes via a shore power cable with a plug at one end, this goes into the shore power outlet or generator, and a socket at the other which goes into the permanent fixture on the boat.

I also have a surface mounted socket on the garage wall which I use to provide electricity to the caravan and a wee stick welder. It all came from Towsure.

The pins always point to where the electricity is coming from.

HF

 

[Momac]

Is this any help?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARAVAN-M...ervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item43a9e4ccbb

 

[viago]

If you can't work it out, I question whether you should be doing the electrics?

Don't know why you are finding any significant price difference between bulkhead plug and bulkhead socket.

yes, im not going to install myself but just looking for a better alternative to trailing a lead through the door.
its not the price, the blue connectors are fairly priced, just a plug is more bulky and isnt easy to find as a flush fitting. still that is what im now looking for.

 

[viago]

http://www.towsure.com/product/Surface_Mounting_Caravan_Mains_Electric_Inlet

flush mounted inlet for a fiver

you beauty. will this pass muster with the surveyor?

 

[viago]

If you are installing your own shorepower system you should make yourself familiar with ISO 13297

There may now be a new version .. but i do not have a link to it

does 11.1 mean the shore to ship connection? or will ip44 suffice?

 

[Bilgediver]

im getting round to electrics and want to avoid the absurd costs of the "internationally recognised system" of getting power on board.
i am also not impressed with the plug inlet system and see no benefit of it over a socket intake.
my question is, will a boat surveyor get aerated if i use http://www.discountelectric.co/imag...ket_IP67_16_amp_2P-E_230v_GW62227-500x500.jpg.
the price point is more on the money and as ip67 it meets water resistance requirements.
thank you for your views.

That is the socket OUTLET as others have said. Get the Socket inlet which will have pins. They are harder to find but do exist. Is what I use.

The american designed ones are a wee bit expensive at 120 pounds plus