Shipping 30 footer back from Greece

l'escargot said:
That should do it - Seajet recommends something like that for getting down or up, I don't think he's sure which, the Danube too... :cool:
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Just make sure you choose a route with plenty of petrol stations!
 
Seajet said:
It's far from ideal but can be made to work, the rudder is not jammed over as implied.
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I think you'll find it makes the boat unsailable - I'm surprised someone with your expertise can't see that. You clearly haven't read NickCs, previous posts then - that is the outboard put on the shared boat by the commodore of his club that started all of his problems...

The responses about an outboard were part of a running joke that even NickC saw and joined in with - but you missed :p
 
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Might work if you're standing up the whole time.

Bit worried about the GPS antenna. It's upside down so you'd have to get used to courses to steer being out by 180 degs. ��

It's looking like that boat was designed and fitted-out by a committee. Ah! It was. ����
 
l'escargot said:
I think you'll find it makes the boat unsailable - I'm surprised someone with your expertise can't see that. You clearly haven't read NickCs, previous posts then - that is the outboard put on the shared boat by the commodore of his club that started all of his problems...

The responses about an outboard were part of a running joke that even NickC saw and joined in with - but you missed :p
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Seajet never reads more than a couple of previous posts before pitching in. There are only a handful of threads on this entire forum which have escaped his version of Worldly wisdom with a similar lack of brain cell application.

Does anyone have a mooring chain for when this boat arrives from Greece?
 
Seajet said:
first question I think of is, would the boat you're thinking of be seaworthy to get to the southern end of the French Canal system, and if so would she fit ?

Mainly a question of draft, over about 4' starts to become tricky but may be feasible, would need checking higher powers.
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With a draught of 5’ 6” maybe the canal route is out then.

Seajet said:
I do know a VERY good delivery skipper who is a ' No BS ' type, he could give straight answers inc by road by someone else - but only really with a lot more details.
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Moody 31, Vounaki Marina - Have a couple of By Road quotes but at around £7.5k makes the whole project unviable.

vyv_cox said:
A half and half solution has worked for many users. Sail up the Adriatic to Slovenia, then road transport to Breskens in Holland. Avoids the Atlantic and the relatively long stretch around Italy to Marseille or Agde for the canals.
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Interesting solution, will try some road transport quotes for that.

Tranona said:
I brought my boat back from Greece 5 years ago - sailing to Spain and then truck to Poole. Skipper/crew cost £2500 including air fares, diesel, marinas, food another £750 and truck £5000 (including loading/unloading mast unstep/step).
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Thanks for sharing details of you experience. So no cheaper that way than road transport all the way then.

Tranona said:
As Vyv suggested truck from Slovenia is easiest and probably a bit cheaper as there are return loads from new boats being delivered there, but you still have a 400 mile sail (from the Ionian) and then a sail over the Channel.
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Worth looking into but I wonder if the cost of doing this might still be in the same region as road transport all the way.

Arcady said:
I did consider using the Canal du Midi, but the return haulage quote was considerably cheaper than airfares, cost of living and so forth for 3 weeks or so.
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Yep, got to take all costs into account.
 
Seajet said:
As I think we have all tried to suggest, not a good idea unless you have some fantastic deal almost beyond one's dreams !
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Point taken.

First of all the idea was to bring one back for myself and my sailing partner. She would need a bit of work but there is no way we could afford to buy one of these in the UK at normal prices.

Then I got to thinking, what about investing my pension in the project and buying a number of them. Get them back to the UK, fix them up as required and make them available to UK sailors to buy.

Then I came across someone else willing to invest in the idea. That would put us in the position of being able to make an offer on all twelve of them.

But it's all down to cost of transport and that's not looking good.
 
NickC said:
Point taken.

First of all the idea was to bring one back for myself and my sailing partner. She would need a bit of work but there is no way we could afford to buy one of these in the UK at normal prices.

Then I got to thinking, what about investing my pension in the project and buying a number of them. Get them back to the UK, fix them up as required and make them available to UK sailors to buy.

Then I came across someone else willing to invest in the idea. That would put us in the position of being able to make an offer on all twelve of them.

But it's all down to cost of transport and that's not looking good.
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Hope you are not serious. Any boat of that age, and particularly if it is one of the ex charter Moodys will be knackered - part of the reason why they are so cheap. Suggest you go and look at the boats out there before you do anything. No way would they sell in the UK market, and prices here of old boats like that are falling because demand is so low.

BTW that draft will just about make it through the North South canal route, but not Canal du Midi.
 
NickC said:
Point taken.

First of all the idea was to bring one back for myself and my sailing partner. She would need a bit of work but there is no way we could afford to buy one of these in the UK at normal prices.

Then I got to thinking, what about investing my pension in the project and buying a number of them. Get them back to the UK, fix them up as required and make them available to UK sailors to buy.

Then I came across someone else willing to invest in the idea. That would put us in the position of being able to make an offer on all twelve of them.

But it's all down to cost of transport and that's not looking good.
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The only way that might work is if you could find 12 potential purchasers who each commit to a boat and that you could thus get a group deal. Otherwise I think Tranona is right; as a speculative investment it is just too risky.
 
or create a new amateur race. Greece to UK. You supply the boats. Skippers fight to get the one in best nick. First one home gets to keep it.

Make sure they all sign accepting all risk ;-)
 
Hi Nick,

You could also considering leasing your boat to a Greek boat rental company and use the money to buy another boat in the UK? I have many friends in the Athens area, where are you docked?
 
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