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Yeah, lots of different ways to build a boat, that’s what makes it such an interesting job. Old workboats were built rough and ready and going way back shipwrights just had an adze and a maul. Tally Ho is being rebuilt to a far higher standard than original as are most big restorations but he has the skill, ability to organise and knows where he is going to end up and how to get there before he started.
 
Another gem in this weeks video by the know all woman ........ time to mask up she says indicating some hazardous air pollution is about to ensue so she dons what appears to be the most basics of masks from poundland . Her lungs will be shot in a few years the way she is going ........ as for last weeks ....how dare he start an engine with discussing it with her beforehand ..... we are given a dressing down for "nay" sayers comments . ????
 
It's not a case of slagging them off ....... Most people on this thread are experienced in wooden boats and can see the error of their ways and indeed tried to educate them in the early days on their channel only to be put down as ( their words ..... Nay Sayers ) . The comments on here are just observations taken from their channel if they don't like it then I suggest they up their game and embrace knowledge given by people who know lots more regarding wooden boats . Their blatent blagging of equipment and tools is beyond belief .......but it has to be said ,they are very good at it .
 
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Just finished watching the series so far and have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it!

I was very much of the 'what have you done!' camp when I started watching and watched out of a morbid fascination of seeing failure. As time went on the family grew on me and I now really want them to succeed. Kudos to them for totally opening up on this journey and letting us into their lives, they deserve all the stuff they are getting and I know many people who get a lot more for a lot less....

They might not be doing things the 'right' way or listening to the 400 different pieces of advice but, sod it, they are giving it a dam good go and having a laugh along the way.

Even my wife got sucked in this series and Gemma has inspired her to take an interest in the maintenance side of boat upkeep. You never know my wife might even pick up a screwdriver one day!
 
Not looked at any of the vids, but horribly familiar... Friend just looked at a 'restoration' project on a classic. Bloke is tired of covid and Joh...err the PM, and wants to go off to sea, so bought an old classic that a few other people had tried their hand at.... £500, bargin! but soft planking (finger pushed through..) and quite a lot of odd work on the interior, which is stripped ...
Do I need to go on?
The bit that really depressed me was the keen 'restorer' had no sailing experience... That might ring a bell with a recent thread...
 
But the basic question is it’s a boat and as far as we are told the bottom has not been inspected so all the work they do will count for nought if it’s not seaworthy at least to get toa dock.But as with Facebook it gets more viewers for its gawky ness and Barry Bucknell on sea format
 
Wansworth said:
But the basic question is it’s a boat and as far as we are told the bottom has not been inspected so all the work they do will count for nought if it’s not seaworthy at least to get toa dock.But as with Facebook it gets more viewers for its gawky ness and Barry Bucknell on sea format
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You might be dissing Bucknell, as at least 50% responsable for the Mirror.
BTW, the wreck I mentioned above is a Hilliard, so def need to avert ones eyes..
 
The more they inadvertently show close ups of the interior the more you can see the poor state of its entirely. Strangely they seem to be blind to it .
 
I’m a returning sailor after reaching a point in my life where I can afford to do boats and family. I’m not made of money but have some spare to buy and hopefully make better a 25-30 footer. I haven’t decided on one yet but am looking.
I’m astounded by the negativity surrounding the people trying to keep a WW2 survivor afloat. I vaguely remember some woodworking skills I’ve used previously but am daunted by any “new venture” that may come from my future purchase.
I don’t know them but have flicked through some of the YouTube videos and wouldn’t be so quick to condemn them straightaway. Yes their methods might not be proper “shipwright” but if it strengthens the hull prior to being put on the hard, which is inevitable at some point in the future, then how can you criticise? She’s going to have to be lifted.
Good on them for their bravery in starting and seeing their innovative nature I think we may be surprised.
Good on them and their sponsors for supporting them I’m slightly jealous I can’t do it.
 
If you are so " astounded " by the negativity here you best return to those who sent you over here and report back that we are just realists or as they call us ......." nay sayers " if you want to experience real negativity just try to offer them some wooden boat knowledge and see how its accepted ..
 
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I’m a returning sailor after reaching a point in my life where I can afford to do boats and family. I’m not made of money but have some spare to buy and hopefully make better a 25-30 footer. I haven’t decided on one yet but am looking.
I’m astounded by the negativity surrounding the people trying to keep a WW2 survivor afloat. I vaguely remember some woodworking skills I’ve used previously but am daunted by any “new venture” that may come from my future purchase.
I don’t know them but have flicked through some of the YouTube videos and wouldn’t be so quick to condemn them straightaway. Yes their methods might not be proper “shipwright” but if it strengthens the hull prior to being put on the hard, which is inevitable at some point in the future, then how can you criticise? She’s going to have to be lifted.
Good on them for their bravery in starting and seeing their innovative nature I think we may be surprised.
Good on them and their sponsors for supporting them I’m slightly jealous I can’t do it.
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just make sure you buy a GRP boat not a steel, ferro or wood boat unless you rather spend time fixing them than sailing them
 
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If you are so " astounded " by the negativity here you best return to those who sent you over here and report back that we are just realists or as they call us ......." nay sayers " if you want to experience real negativity just try to offer them some wooden boat knowledge and see how its accepted ..
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I beg your pardon? No one has sent me anywhere. I’m a realist as well and as for the nay sayer quote I’m not that well versed to understand that.

Im genuinely going to be asking for advice myself when I do purchase a vessel and probably before that for people’s opinion on the type of boat. I thought that was for this forum was for.
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just make sure you buy a GRP boat not a steel, ferro or wood boat unless you rather spend time fixing them than sailing them
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Thank you, I am unsure about buying a supposedly “restored” wooden one or simply taking the GRP option. I’d sooner go traditional but not having lots of time but a bit of money available I think I may have to go for the easy option. Saw a beautiful boat online in Gosport, not too far away from where I work but am reluctant to ask for help and advice here now.
 
Back in the bilges. said:
I beg your pardon? No one has sent me anywhere. I’m a realist as well and as for the nay sayer quote I’m not that well versed to understand that.

Im genuinely going to be asking for advice myself when I do purchase a vessel and probably before that for people’s opinion on the type of boat. I thought that was for this forum was for.

Thank you, I am unsure about buying a supposedly “restored” wooden one or simply taking the GRP option. I’d sooner go traditional but not having lots of time but a bit of money available I think I may have to go for the easy option. Saw a beautiful boat online in Gosport, not too far away from where I work but am reluctant to ask for help and advice here now.
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If you are a genuine poster (not unknown for first posters to have ulterior motives in controversial threads..) then the realities of restoring WW11 reliques are a minefield. Extremely deep pockets needed and very good skills. If one is trying to keep the heritage of the vessel, bodging stuff is hardly in the frame.
If you want to get back into sailing, then the obvious is to buy one of the (very)many mid 20s GRP length boats on sale. You get to go out for a fraction of the cost of renovating a 'classic'. .

Bit of reading.. on a real wooden restoration.
Ginger Dot
My father was in the loop briefly, but health got in the way.
Bit of a cautionary tale. But trying to do it properly. Otherwise there is little point. The Ship Happens mob really have no idea.

I have just taken over a 20ft GRP cruiser, slightly sporty, needs a bit of TLC. But in the pocket money area. I also have two wooden boats, but ply/epoxy smaller ones.
Work on the cruiser is in the winter schedule without disrupting any other more important stuff, like earning and home life...
 
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DownWest said:
If you are a genuine poster (not unknown for first posters to have ulterior motives in controversial threads..) then the realities of restoring WW11 reliques are a minefield. Extremely deep pockets needed and very good skills. If one is trying to keep the heritage of the vessel, bodging stuff is hardly in the frame.
If you want to get back into sailing, then the obvious is to buy one of the (very)many mid 20s length boats on sale. You get to go out for a fraction of the cost of renovating a 'classic'. .
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I’ve already posted asking for advice/opinions. I’m not sure what I’ve got into here. I was just a bit surprised at the reactions that were made. Please look at new threads. Thanks. By the way it’s relics if you’re going to doubt my intentions not “reliques”.
 
Back in the bilges. said:
but am reluctant to ask for help and advice here now.
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Dont be put off. There will always be armchair experts who will tell you something is bad but have no personal experience themselves.. There are enough of us on here that have been there and done it .
I,ve had wood ,aluminium, plywood ,grp and ferro. Not owned a steel boat but spent a serious amount of hrs working on one.
Each has their merits and downsides.
 
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Each has their merits and downsides.
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Don't they!
Close friend built a ferro 34ft gaff ketch back in the 80s. No problems with the construction method. After assorted adventures, he got run down by a big ship coming back from Madeira. Glancing blow, but he abandoned as a gale was coming up and he had lost the bowsprit and the hull deck joint was letting in a lot of water. Main rigging was bust on one side and the mast was wagging all over.
He recently bought a 30ft fixer upper, but the engine was terminal and the boat has become a hobby, but will be ready for the spring. Quite a lot of unexpected work.. from the engine to the rig and interior linings, plus the decrepid wiring.
So, get one that is in ready to go condition..
 
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