Parabordi
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Didnt get a tide table this year.
Shepperton to St.Katherines
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Outinthedinghy
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How does one purchase a visitor registration ?
Last time I came through Teddington inward bound was a year or two ago and I bought the ticket in the office.
Have they stopped doing this? Invitation for unregistered boats innit.
It's a PRN river anyway as we all know but still worth encouraging
Time Out
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Yes they are just about doing that. They don’t like it if you step on the island. Public are no longer allowed on there. Toilet is closed too.
oldgit
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Cannot recall receiving my map this year but happy to use my older versions.
In previous life as " Inshore" did nip up to Gravesend to personally collect a dozen copies for an up coming organised invasion of GOR.
Last year just did the usual, came through the lock moored up and wandered back down later on way to the pub to cough up.
The gate is was padlocked overnight to prevent oiks getting access and suspect there was no one on duty one particular night as a lockie arrived apparently ready to start a shift while we were standing by the gate early one morn.
However they may have merely nipped up to the shops for supplies.
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Time Out
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Is this Tedd? the lock island is no longer open to members of the public. the only way to access it is by boat.
oldgit
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Yes Teddington., was able to walk down to the lock office and gain access via the gate by the barge lock.
Time Out
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Lucky, or they left it open!
Mark26
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There was a period of restricted staffing, I.e not 24hrs. You must have come through then.
oldgit
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Could be Could be but seem to remember gate was not padlocked during day light working hours, they may have simply neglected to lock gate ?
Will find out soon enough contributing to EA "Thames" funds sometime next month.
Parabordi
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Same here!
KDeacon62
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A bit confused….if it’s <4hrs cruise from Teddington to St.Kats, and I cannot traverse Richmond until high tide -2hrs, how is it possible to make locking time at St.Kats(1.5hrs after HW)?
Aquafan
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Aquafan
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I know the problem well which is why I often end up in Limehouse which is fine but about 40 mins further. Limehouse has a much wider range of access than St Kats. They are very helpful and will come in early or late to let you in/out.
You can leave Teddington maybe 2 hrs before or 1 hr after high tide to go past Richmond and you should do St Kats in 3hrs. or even a bit less if you are lucky and if you have a reasonable turn of speed.
You can leave Teddington maybe 2 hrs before or 1 hr after high tide to go past Richmond and you should do St Kats in 3hrs. or even a bit less if you are lucky and if you have a reasonable turn of speed.
Doolittle
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Don't ignore Limehouse, as it has a much wider entry/exit window is also less busy and only 3Km downstream from St Kat's
Mark26
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First decide what time you want to be at your destination. Then workout how long it will take you (not everyone else) to complete your journey based on your speed over the ground, taking into account the tidal stream at the time you wish to travel. This will give you your departure time.
Do not use anyone else’s speed predictions. Get out on the tideway for some dummy runs and find out exactly how yours performs.
Don’t forget to take spring/neap tides into consideration.
Outinthedinghy
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Also worth noting that you can get past Richmond when the barrier is down by using the "half" lock. It's a manned PLA asset and I think you have to pay but not sure how much. Tenner ?
It can help to have this option if your timing is unusual and you do not wish to wait for the barrier to be taken up into the bridge.
Richmond lock arrr also on the phone and always very polite and helpful.
It can help to have this option if your timing is unusual and you do not wish to wait for the barrier to be taken up into the bridge.
Richmond lock arrr also on the phone and always very polite and helpful.
oldgit
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Frequently used the lock £8.00 ? but the time gained can be marginal, as little as 30-45 mins on occassion over barrier lift , however if that amount of time makes the trip less stressful...... the way to go.
Give them a ring and they will tell you when to get there and likely exit time.
Sometimes atmospheric pressures and winds in the esturary will affect the amount of water and timings of lock exit.
Personally (even with 400 HP) am very aware of just how much power is needed to overcome ( 2-3 knots) of incoming tide, but narrowboats seem to manage to get to Limehouse OK all the time .
Give them a ring and they will tell you when to get there and likely exit time.
Sometimes atmospheric pressures and winds in the esturary will affect the amount of water and timings of lock exit.
Personally (even with 400 HP) am very aware of just how much power is needed to overcome ( 2-3 knots) of incoming tide, but narrowboats seem to manage to get to Limehouse OK all the time .
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Mark26
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Richmond lock is now £10
Don’t confuse the man OG by passing on your experiences, it sound like he has a very different vessel to yours.
Don’t confuse the man OG by passing on your experiences, it sound like he has a very different vessel to yours.
Corona Mia
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Deacon……don’t worry it is doable!?
HW Teddington arrives later than HW St. Katts………so you’re not waiting for HW Teddington.
You are waiting for enough water to safely creep down the centre of the channel on the first section.
It should also be fairly quiet from boats coming upstream at that time.
Tell the ‘Lockie’ your draft, where you plan to go, and I’m sure they will be helpful.
If by any chance you do ‘kiss the bottom’…….don’t panic as the tide is still incoming on the Flood.
The bottom is mainly mud and gravel, so if your speed is sensible you’re unlikely to damage your hull.
But props are more vulnerable.……especially if you plan to make a long coastal voyage after?
As OG mentioned in post4……the biggest issue can be rowers.
If you meet a lot of groups along your journey, you can forget the speed you‘ve calculated to make your ‘tidal gates’.
I‘ve done it many times……and only finished up on the (inside) of St. Katts pier once after missing the lock!?
Wishing you an enjoyable and great trip.?
KDeacon62
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Thank you all for taking the time and helping my education, it was much needed. Ultimately i did decide to speak to the Lockie...very helpful. He recommends getting there at 08.00 in the morning on the day, and expects to have sufficient to "float my boat" before 08.30.....from whence i will proceed with utmost caution in the channel until i'm into decent water...... the 10.00 will hopefully be money well spent!