Semi-Displacement Boats

You would be able to pick a nice broom 33 for around 100k with engines that would top around 19kts, similar layout to the broom 345 inside. Birchwood TS37 are very nice and still look quite stylish. Just sold mine for just under 90k (15yrs) and was sold quite quickly. A very stable boat and plenty room. However don't give up on planing hulls. You could get a sealine 360 for around 100k and a lot of boat comes with it. Just bought an F36 and build quality, handling all very good.
 
Hatteras are made in the USA and have very good build quality except I've heard some earlier ones suffering from osmosis
Ocean Alexander, HiStar, President were/are built in Taiwan just like Trader. These boats are not bad and come into the loadsaboatforthemoney category. Their condition is going to depend on how they've been looked after
I have to agree with the sentiments of others. By restricting yourself to semi displacement boats, you are ignoring some very fine planing hulled boats that are around your budget or just over. For example, you could get a good Fairline Turbo 36 for less than £100k. This was one of the best boats Fairline ever built with loads of interior space and a very good seakeeping. Get a good one for £90k and you wont lose money on it. With asking prices around £120k, you've got the Princess 45 and 435. Both have excellent hulls and again tons of interior space
Another thing to be aware of is that just because a boat has an asking price of £120k does'nt mean you can't get it for a lot less. Its a buyers market at the moment especially as winter approaches. If you're interested in a boat start with a low offer, say 20% less than asking price, make sure the broker knows you're a serious buyer and see what happens
 
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Damn those brokers. This is the second time the same broker has got the wrong. I wish they would do their homework.Steve

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Like Guy Couach build quality ... be ware of Renault IVECO and Mercedes engines though ... parts may be expensive and or difficult to get hold of in the UK....

A couple of 1200, 1201, 1202, 1400 & 1401's for sale on Boats diffusion

Engines to go for are Volvo's, Cummins and GM(Detroit) .... all of which have parts and service knowledge of are readily available.....

With respect to Planning or SD, I would not worry about the technicalities .... SD will roll more which may be disconcerning for a novice family, and a planning hull at this size will become relatively stable at 12 knots + ... so find the boat that suits your use with respect to space, speed and range.... (Guy Couach normally fit large tanks with good range .... seem to recall that most of the 1400 series was fitted with 2000L as standard, with extended tanks available.... now that makes for good price on diesel and 400 NM range...)
 
What about a Corvette 32, I know it's under your desired length but with a beam of 3.96m it offers comparable space with a larger boat. They offer up to eight berths , have a flybridge, timeless trawler styling and are tough as old boots.
The hull has an unusual underwater profile which gives it good displacement cruising yet speeds in the mid twenties.
They are available new and have been in production since the eighties. The earlier ones are available under £100,000 and you save money when it comes to berthing.
P.S. I don't think membership of Cardiff Bay Yacht Club is expensive at £170 per year .
 
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The Princess 35 and 415 are absolutely definitely medium/deep V planing hulls. The broker is an idiot

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Have you thought of the Atlantic 38?
John Bennet designed hull. They come in displacement with single small engine, semi dispalcement with bigger twins and also planing version.
We have the middle one of the two and love it. Internal accomodation on these is without compare for the length in my biassed opinion.
You'd need an early on to get in your price bracket.
 
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Have you thought of the Atlantic 38?

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Nope... on (e)paper they the business though.

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Have you thought of the Atlantic 38?

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Nope... on (e)paper they the business though.

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<span style="color:blue"> Correct me if I am wrong but weren't quite a few of those boats under-powered? </span>
 
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Have you thought of the Atlantic 38?

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Nope... on (e)paper they the business though.

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<span style="color:blue"> Correct me if I am wrong but weren't quite a few of those boats under-powered? </span>

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Some are designed purely for displacement use with small single engine - underpowered for sea use certainly, but being low air draught command bridge type they are attractive for inland waterways use. Ours has twin perkins sabre 225's and is about right for speeds mentioned earlier. Very flexible boat for inland and offshore - have used it for both.
 
The Birchwood TS37 is derived from the Birchwood President, which is derived from the Birchwood Sportsman35/T&S35 which is derived from the original Birchwood 33.
All have essentially the same semi displacement hull, which has changed little since the late seventies.
They are still using this hull today.

Steve.
 
Based on your replies here I would propose to look for a Birchwood 37. I owned one 37SS that I bought new from the factory in 1988. The boat was brought out from the factory with me watching, launched and I drove home from Hull to Helsinki without the slightest problem. - Thats not bad considering the amount of post-delivery problems you can read about also at this forum.
BW 37 SS with 2 x 200 Volvo is cruising the twenties and topping 26. Very dry ride, good in head seas. Easy to service too.
 
Thats interesting. What was the fuel consumption on that boat when cruising in the twenties?
What was your normal cruising speed?

Its also amazing that you took it so far on its maiden voyage - I know of a major brand boat that never even made it across the channel on its maiden voyage and indeed many new boat take up to a year to sort out the problems.

One new boat I know about managed to have the diesel return paipe for both engines returned the the same tank. The proud owners got ready for their maiden voyage with friends and did not even manage to get out of the marina having covered the marine water with a well distributed layer of diesel!

I wonder if all makes were more reliable back then and the unreliability of a new boat is a more modern feature?
 
I was younger and not so wice then in 1988! We even made it at night from Hull to Terschelling. We installed the decca before departure and learned to use it under way. In the middle of the night we were spotlighted by an oil rig obviously being too close. We were quite low on fuel on arrival but didn't have to use spare fuel that we had on board. The boat had 1000 tank and if I recall correctly cruised 200 nm without problems. - Cruising speed 20-22 knots. The boat served me very well the four years I had it. Starting to think about it I remember I had one gearbox brake down. - On the box counterturning. The finish and detailing on older boats is not very exceptional but maybe they still were put together by more boaty guys than in todays industrialized plants? I visited Birchwood during the build and it was a series production but not very large and had the "boatyard" feeling. Maybe thats why they got problems soon after. - The 37SS is the only beautiful boat they made, in my opinion.
 
Thats just over a gallon a mile which is really up towards the planing end of the spectrum - is the hull a genuine SD hull? If it was it should have produced much better consumption down at 10 knots. I am puzzled because I cannot see the logic in buying an SD hull and then travelling at planing speeds - seems a planing hull might have been more economic?
 
You are absolutely right. Checked the old logs and consumption was abt, 2,45-2,5 l/nm, giving a safe range of 300 miles which sound considerably better. I have also had a Fairline 33 targa (36 ft) that cruised 25-26 with the same engines (drove that one home from Dartmouth in 1995).
 
As a relatively newcomer to mobo's you have missed the pre-CAD designed boats that were designed on the back of a fag packet!
The boat's from the 80's were on the whole a mix of fairly simple designs with by todays standards quite low powered engines.
The first UK designed planing hull that received rave reviews was I beleive the Princess 45 ( original )
There were many hulls that were a mix of SD and with extensive planing surfaces.
 
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