Security in the Mediterranean

I find all this talk unreal. I could step out my door in the UK and get mugged. If you want to go cruising, just do it. If your too worried about it stay at home. We cruised from Uk to Greece and never had a problem. Heard of one or two, yes, but read the papers at home and it puts it all into perspective.
 
I was on the Neilson pontoon in Nidri a few weeks ago, when a French couple had their dinghy and outboard stolen even though it was padlocked to the pontoon. There is no escaping a determined thief!!
 
Prejudiced?

And, I thought I was prejudiced!

BTW, I really like all of the French people I have met on our circumnavigation. I have seen nothing like described here. I also like the Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch folks. I have some good UK friends, but none are as prejudiced as many of the people responding to this thread.

I will pass on a very good Texas custom to you. When you say something derogatory about someone, begin or end the statement with, "..., bless their heart."

"Bless your heart."

Bill
 
>I find it very surprising that the French attract so much derision as thieves.

I agree the the French in France are mainly law abiding but not so cruisers. There is a French cruising book with an ISBN number about cruising on a budget. One chapter is about how to steal things. They even stole a racing boat in the BVI's and they repainted it in French St Matin and none of the locals shopped them.

When we had our generator replaced in Guadaloupe the main engineer (French) came to the boat see where it was to be fitted, I took him ashore ashore to go to his office and locked the dinghy. He said no need to do that the French start stealing things in May before they head back to France. One French boat was caught with nine dinghies and outboards below decks.

The other thing about the French is they always anchor directly in front of you and drop back over your anchor. Sometimes they drag back on you which happend twice, once in the BVI's and once in Antigua.

No cruisers in the Caribbean like them.
 
B&M said:
I was on the Neilson pontoon in Nidri a few weeks ago, when a French couple had their dinghy and outboard stolen even though it was padlocked to the pontoon. There is no escaping a determined thief!!
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Am surprised at this as we have never locked our dinghy on the Neilson pontoon and have noticed quite a few others do the same. Why did they go for the locked one, was it very expensive?
Did their insurance cover them as it was locked
 
KellysEye said:
The other thing about the French is they always anchor directly in front of you and drop back over your anchor.
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"Always"? As in 'you always exaggerate?'

And why not drop back over someone's hook? With the wind shifting you'll often end up that way in any event. Providing the other party's prepared to move if you wish to, then I see no problem -- unless you believe you're entitled to 360 degrees of clear water around you, which in my book makes you as selfish as you seem to believe the French to be. In a crowded anchorage, maximising space in this way is surely the only considerate course.
 
macd said:
"Always"? As in 'you always exaggerate?'

And why not drop back over someone's hook? With the wind shifting you'll often end up that way in any event. Providing the other party's prepared to move if you wish to, then I see no problem -- unless you believe you're entitled to 360 degrees of clear water around you, which in my book makes you as selfish as you seem to believe the French to be. In a crowded anchorage, maximising space in this way is surely the only considerate course.
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Were discussing this the other day when at an anchorage where the bottom was not foul a couple had put anchor buoys out. It meant that unless you wanted it banging against your hull in the night you in effect had to give them a lot more room than was necessary. Fair enough in a foul anchorage but when not the case it really is not necessary.
 
>The other thing about the French is they always anchor directly in front of you and drop back over your anchor.

>>"Always"? As in 'you always exaggerate?'

I do mean always it's no exaggeration. You have obviously never been cruising in the Caribbean otherwise it would have happened to you. I don't know if it happens in the Med.

>>unless you believe you're entitled to 360 degrees of clear water around you, which in my book makes you as selfish as you seem to believe the French to be.

No I don't want clear water all round, in most anchorage that's not possible and I'm happy with that. Also I dont think the French cruisers are selfish just thieving pains in the back side who don't give a damn about anybody else.

I don't know why some people guess what somebody thinks or does, it seems pointless.
 
Prejudiced

I am so glad to have joined ybw a few days ago. The entertainment value is unbelievable and priceless.

Can anyone recommend the French version of ybw, because I would like to see if they feel the same about the Brits. I sort of doubt it, but if they do, it could be more entertaining than this.

You people are way too funny.

BTW, shame on you.

Bill
 
BeBe said:
I am so glad to have joined ybw a few days ago. The entertainment value is unbelievable and priceless.

Can anyone recommend the French version of ybw, because I would like to see if they feel the same about the Brits. I sort of doubt it, but if they do, it could be more entertaining than this.

You people are way too funny.

BTW, shame on you.

Bill
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Shame on you Colonial boy:) :) Have a nice day;)
 
rtboss1 said:
Shame on you Colonial boy:) :) Have a nice day;)
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You must not know your history very well. Let me give you a needed lesson:

The Republic of Texas was never ever a colony and its citizens were never a subject of the Crown. The Republic of Texas was an independent country before joining the states...the only state with that history.

Texas is usually right on most things, but probably made a mistake by joining.

Bill
 
You only take the main sail. and leave the headsail... nice one
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Nah,a half Italian would nick galvanised shackles as well as stainless ones!
unlike the Italian guy we caught last year, he walked all along the quayside nicking every stainless mooring shackle from the permanent small boat moorings he could find, at least he re tied the lines after he had nicked the shackle!
His ribs must have ached next day though, he got a slight kicking when caught! and well deserved the theiving barsteward.
 
KellysEye said:
You have obviously never been cruising in the Caribbean otherwise it would have happened to you. I don't know if it happens in the Med...
...I don't know why some people guess what somebody thinks or does, it seems pointless.
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You seemed happy to guess the "obvious" -- that I'd never cruised in the Caribbean, which was indeed "pointless" because I've just sailed back from there. My experience was not like yours, perhaps because it was seen through less jaundiced eyes.

When something is similarly "obvious" to you in future, perhaps you'd be so kind as to keep it to yourself.
 
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