Seaward 25

A fine vessel Sir!
Like all the Hardy range
Yep a bit 'fatter' than some.
I always say boats mirror their owners:D

I believe they don't make the Pilot/Bosun range any more?:confused:

Yep, I could just see Tidnock in a Ship like that.

Tid, been all over the Irish Sea in singles.
Don't be too bent on twins.
The single/twin thing has been debated to death on here and every Marina/harbour in the land no doubt
No doubt which I like
No doubt tothers will say 'twins is best'
Yer takes yer choice!
As for getting it 'right' 4th time round?
No chance:)
Came ashore half an hour ago
Been on a single outdrive jobby in the Strait (blowin a bit earlier!) the discussion , then was 'what's the best' etc etc
Conclusion was/is, all boats are a compromise!!!
So no conclusion in effect
Good innit!:rolleyes::)


yup, certainly boats mirror there owners if thats the case... :D

Pilot and Bosun range now no more... going bigger rather than smaller... saw a Hardy 50 in Port Hamble 2 weeks ago....mmmmm what a ship!

Would love a Hardy 36... but alas that's a decade away as things stand :confused:

still my Hardy will do me until then... really so happy with it.... still!
 
By the way, in terms of reliability i wouldn't get too caught of on the twin engine thing, as Kwaka said. You're basically humping another engine around with you, doubling your servicing costs and using more fuel, just to have an auxiliary engine.

Matter of interest, two engines: What about manoeuvrability? Any advantage with two props? Or in this case would they be spaced too close together for any advantage?

Just interested.
 
Matter of interest, two engines: What about manoeuvrability? Any advantage with two props? Or in this case would they be spaced too close together for any advantage?

Just interested.

Would be more manoeuvrable, but my single shaft drive Hardy with a bowthruster is also pretty manoeuvrable... also you are not talking whopping 40 / 50 footers here... just 25-26ft... the size does help! :)
 
....mmmm, my Hardy won't do that... unless liberal use of the Bowthruster is applied! :rolleyes: but also I don't think I have ever needed too.... well not through 360 degrees anyway!

I might be wrong, but if one engine:

fouls the prop
throws a fan belt
blows a turbo
picks up fuel contamination (i know they will be filled at the same pump, but would they fail at the same time)
raw or engine water pump fails
etc etc

you always have the other engine to get you out of trouble, they are two 75hp not big fuel guzzlers, indeed, I am only guessing but the service costs of two little ones might be close to cost of one big one
 
Matter of interest, two engines: What about manoeuvrability? Any advantage with two props? Or in this case would they be spaced too close together for any advantage?

Just interested.

No, it does help
I have helmed a few 22 Channel Islands
Twin and Single
The twin (even on a tiddler) with shafts is much more nimble in the marina and other close quarter situations.
Even RIBS and smaller outdrive vessels will 'respond' when one goes forward and one goes back
Ones engines I mean!
obviously, on a something like a RIB with the engines quite close together, the type of props etc the 'spinning on a sixpence' routine is available but requires a slightly different technique.
But yep, basically close twins do work.
Singles as we all know, it's just a matter of getting to grips with 'prop walk' innit!
 
I might be wrong, but if one engine:

fouls the prop.
Quite often the other one gets fouled too!


throws a fan belt

Fix it then Your a big boy now:D

blows a turbo

OK OK Yer got me there but it's a bit rare I reckon.


picks up fuel contamination (i know they will be filled at the same pump, but would they fail at the same time)
raw or engine water pump fails
etc etc

Yer just tryin to be difficult now:rolleyes::)

you always have the other engine to get you out of trouble, they are two 75hp not big fuel guzzlers, indeed, I am only guessing but the service costs of two little ones might be close to cost of one big one

No, I reckon 2 little uns will beat one big un there, price wise.
 
Another option to throw into the mix is Trusty. They seem to have a good balance of cockpit vs accomodation space. Not seen one in the flesh yet though.

I have a Trusty 23 and am pretty pleased with it. It is very comfortable for 2 and cruises quietly all day at 6 kts using about 2.3lph. Last month I went from Inverness through the Pentland Firth, round Cape Wrath, down the West Coast past Ardnamurchan and back through the Caledonian Canal with no problems. But this is another boat that does not like a swell from the rear quarter - and we get some quite big swells up here!
 
Yes the Trusty can get a bit 'busy' with the Sea up it's quarter!
Same as the single Channel Island 22, although with the 140 turbo at least there's a chance to out run the swell.
That sounded like a right good trip arawa, spot on!
 
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