sogood
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Does anybody have any experience, views, opinions on a Sealine 218. Fitted with a Volvo penta AD 31/DP. This is a 4 cylinder, 150 hp, duo prop leg. Any input much appreciated.
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Sneds
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We used to have a Sealine 215, same set up and loved it
sogood
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Thanks. Anything to be cautious or aware of?
Momac
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If the boat has been used extensively on inland waters at 5 knots this can lead to turbocharger issues due to lack of use .
Engine service intervals are 100 engine hours or annually.
The outdrive should be serviced regularly - at least an oil change every two years , anodes replaced and bellows changes as necessary .
Look for service history . A lot of people do their own service work which is fine . I keep receipts for service parts and oil and a log as evidence but suspect many people do not .
Always have a pre purchase survey.
Join the Sealine Forum.
Engine service intervals are 100 engine hours or annually.
The outdrive should be serviced regularly - at least an oil change every two years , anodes replaced and bellows changes as necessary .
Look for service history . A lot of people do their own service work which is fine . I keep receipts for service parts and oil and a log as evidence but suspect many people do not .
Always have a pre purchase survey.
Join the Sealine Forum.
Sneds
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As above
Expect to pay around £1k total for and engine and leg service, we did it every two years with no ill effects
Make sure the gas system is up to spec
Expect to pay around £1k total for and engine and leg service, we did it every two years with no ill effects
Make sure the gas system is up to spec
sogood
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Further to the above, I bit the bullet and am in the process of getting her ready for the coming season. Lots more to report, but more pics and updates will follow. Volvo ad31 diesel, for a change!
QBhoy
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Hi
I had a 218 for years. One of the best boats I ever owned. Did everything so well for such a small package.
mine had the more common 4.3 VP and 290dp. Quick and powerful wee thing when it had to be.
a lesser number of them came with your engine fitted. I’ve never been on a 218 with that engine, but I have been many times on a similar cruisers 224 with that engine.
upside was very good on fuel and cheap to run, but the huge downside was that it was almost full throttle to keep it on plane and very harsh to the ear. If the hood was up, forget having a conversation at anything more than very slow speeds. Not as refined as the 4.3 v6, but I’m sure the idea of a diesel will be appealing in other ways.
just keep an eye on those electrics. My boat, another the same and a later 220 all had electrical earthing gremlins at some stage.
also watch out for the usual VP290 gear oil seal bearing easily nipped or overcome with water intrusion.
I had a 218 for years. One of the best boats I ever owned. Did everything so well for such a small package.
mine had the more common 4.3 VP and 290dp. Quick and powerful wee thing when it had to be.
a lesser number of them came with your engine fitted. I’ve never been on a 218 with that engine, but I have been many times on a similar cruisers 224 with that engine.
upside was very good on fuel and cheap to run, but the huge downside was that it was almost full throttle to keep it on plane and very harsh to the ear. If the hood was up, forget having a conversation at anything more than very slow speeds. Not as refined as the 4.3 v6, but I’m sure the idea of a diesel will be appealing in other ways.
just keep an eye on those electrics. My boat, another the same and a later 220 all had electrical earthing gremlins at some stage.
also watch out for the usual VP290 gear oil seal bearing easily nipped or overcome with water intrusion.
oldgit
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" just keep an eye on those electrics. "
+1.
This not a pop at Sealine, more at Volvo Penta and sure that this is not common
but Volvo powered Sealines do seem to have grief with engine/drive control electronics, especially the bigger boats.
Going into limp mode .
A F4? and a F33 with engines failing to run due to ECU ? problems.
The F33 has had the problem for ages despite various VP outfits extracting money from the owner over several years. Engine dies over 2000 RPM and refuses to to turn off until you go down and shut off the fuel pump by hand.
The F4? was bought last year and one engine failed on its first trip out more expensive and hard to sort problems followed..
Boat is now back on the market .
S34 which is currently stuck in the Solent waiting to come back home after two seperate attempts by two different companies to get the outdrive electronics to communicate to the legs without bending stuff. First repair included virtually rebuilding one of the legs, it do not solve the problem and skipper forced to turn round and go back on one engine.
Chum of mine had a Fairline Phantom 46 which had the habit of one engine conking out miles from anywhere, took 2 years before a replacement ECU "appeared" to solve the problem.
Was that the end of the problem, never found out, boat on market just as soon as the thing was able to go a few miles without breaking down especially with any prospective buyer and his surveyor on board.
+1.
This not a pop at Sealine, more at Volvo Penta and sure that this is not common
but Volvo powered Sealines do seem to have grief with engine/drive control electronics, especially the bigger boats.Going into limp mode .
A F4? and a F33 with engines failing to run due to ECU ? problems.
The F33 has had the problem for ages despite various VP outfits extracting money from the owner over several years. Engine dies over 2000 RPM and refuses to to turn off until you go down and shut off the fuel pump by hand.
The F4? was bought last year and one engine failed on its first trip out more expensive and hard to sort problems followed..
Boat is now back on the market .
S34 which is currently stuck in the Solent waiting to come back home after two seperate attempts by two different companies to get the outdrive electronics to communicate to the legs without bending stuff. First repair included virtually rebuilding one of the legs, it do not solve the problem and skipper forced to turn round and go back on one engine.
Chum of mine had a Fairline Phantom 46 which had the habit of one engine conking out miles from anywhere, took 2 years before a replacement ECU "appeared" to solve the problem.
Was that the end of the problem, never found out, boat on market just as soon as the thing was able to go a few miles without breaking down especially with any prospective buyer and his surveyor on board.
Momac
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" just keep an eye on those electrics. "
+1.
This not a pop at Sealine, more at Volvo Penta and sure that this is not common
Going into limp mode .
A F4? and a F33 with engines failing to run due to ECU ? problems.
The F33 has had the problem for ages despite various VP outfits extracting money from the owner over several years. Engine dies over 2000 RPM and refuses to to turn off until you go down and shut off the fuel pump by hand.
The F4? was bought last year and one engine failed on its first trip out more expensive and hard to sort problems followed..
Boat is now back on the market .
S34 which is currently stuck in the Solent waiting to come back home after two seperate attempts by two different companies to get the outdrive electronics to communicate to the legs without bending stuff. First repair included virtually rebuilding one of the legs, it do not solve the problem and skipper forced to turn round and go back on one engine.
Chum of mine had a Fairline Phantom 46 which had the habit of one engine conking out miles from anywhere, took 2 years before a replacement ECU "appeared" to solve the problem.
Was that the end of the problem, never found out, boat on market just as soon as the thing was able to go a few miles without breaking down especially with any prospective buyer and his surveyor on board.
As and owner of a F33 I would like to know what engines are fitted in the F33 to which you refer please ? To my knowledge no F33 was fitted, when new, with engines that have an ECU.
I can't I imagine any one brand of boat is any better or worse than any other when it come to ECU problems .
sogood
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Thank you Qhboy for the words of encouragement. I'm very happy with it and apart from chasing down a few very minor electrical issues everything seems to work as it should. Pity the thread wandered off onto a discourse of the merits or otherwise of some totally unrelated engine. Not to worry. Any other input much appreciated.
oldgit
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Will get some details in a day or two.
It definately has the small 4 cylinder Volvos on outdrives, personally had get get down into the engine bay to manually turn engine(s) off after one cruise from Rochester to Teddington.
Last month boat went into local marina to be serviced and repaired.
Boat collected and bill paid.
The "repaired" engine refused to rev above 2000rpm on its first test run and then went into limp mode.
Also, on this boat, both outdrives were replaced when an attempt to service the legs was made shortly after purchase........... ............corrosion.
Previous owner, known to purchaser, swore blind the boat had been previously serviced within a inch of its life.
The refusing to turn off problem is still there.
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halcyon
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oldgit
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Pretty certain regards the problematical F33 , engines and drive system are exactly the same as in your boat.
Its not the engine, , its whats makes it go or or more worryingly stop, which is a problem.
If at some point you are out there and the engine stops you might suddenly be very interested in this thread indeed.
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Momac
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Start a new thread when you know the engine model
oldgit
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No problem. Will speak to owner and get details regards exact model and age of boat and the engines.
The boat its self is absolutely immaculate. He previously had a Princess 33 on shafts, but his lady wife took one look at the interior of the Sealine and that was it.
CLB
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" just keep an eye on those electrics. "
+1.
This not a pop at Sealine, more at Volvo Penta and sure that this is not common
Going into limp mode .
A F4? and a F33 with engines failing to run due to ECU ? problems.
The F33 has had the problem for ages despite various VP outfits extracting money from the owner over several years. Engine dies over 2000 RPM and refuses to to turn off until you go down and shut off the fuel pump by hand.
The F4? was bought last year and one engine failed on its first trip out more expensive and hard to sort problems followed..
Boat is now back on the market .
S34 which is currently stuck in the Solent waiting to come back home after two seperate attempts by two different companies to get the outdrive electronics to communicate to the legs without bending stuff. First repair included virtually rebuilding one of the legs, it do not solve the problem and skipper forced to turn round and go back on one engine.
Chum of mine had a Fairline Phantom 46 which had the habit of one engine conking out miles from anywhere, took 2 years before a replacement ECU "appeared" to solve the problem.
Was that the end of the problem, never found out, boat on market just as soon as the thing was able to go a few miles without breaking down especially with any prospective buyer and his surveyor on board.
Not relevant to the OP. The AD31 doesn't have an ECU and doesn't have outdrive electronics. It is a simple, slightly agricultural, engine with few vices.
sogood
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That was my point. I'm all in favour of debate and the sharing of information, but especially so when it's relevant, that's all.
sogood
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Thanks very much. I'm sure I'll be back with plenty of questions.
oldgit
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If it has no electronics what is making the engine shut down and go into limp mode , a later version perhaps KAD31 and Duo props. ?
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CLB
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Nope, the Kad32 isn't any more sophisticated than the AD31, apart from its supercharger. Could be a stuck turbo. Ive had that on an AD31. Alternatively, the engines you are talking about could have been D3s
