Sealine F46 video

Nice video, thanks.

I do wonder about Mr Marsh's approach though. Is he programmed only to praise the boat? He loves the engine room space, but is it a good thing when there's no lazerette or crew cabin? 46 feet is 46 feet whether made by Sealine or any other builder, and what differentiates boats is how the space is used. Putting lots of space all around the engines and no storage lockers sounds daft to me. Likewise, the tooling for making the aft pillars seems atrocious - see the GRP finish on the gloss black (1.02 in the vid), esp at bottom right left corner of the frame. And the internal helm seat bench looked like the sofa from a 1972 Sprite caravan but got no adverse comment. The nice sidedecks got mentioned, but not the fact they drain to the aft cockpit. And so on. The clever use of light is well worthy of much praise, as are loads of other features on the f46, but some harsh criticisms are, unfortunately, due too
 
very nice video..
I like how the boat rides low, thinking it is with pods it is very good and how relaxed it turns with the steering I agree feels like a much smaller boat
love also the wide side decks
the light is nice too and the helm view is fantastic altough in the med that would be become a sauna IMO would be nice to have glass which reduce the sun glare and get darker as on the Altantis yachts
the flybridge as Marsh says is among the biggest in the category and looks large
the boat seem to go a bit airborne to much in head seas for a 46 footer in what looks like a Force 3/4 sea with 3 foot waves
I would have like to see some critizing of the things mentioned on the forum like the cleats place, or where to put the passarelle for tender lifting and lowering a fault they also have on the the smaler SC35
nice job the movies keep on improving
 
You will find many of these criticisms in the full boat report in this month's MBY. We think this is the more appropriate place for proper critique as it gives us the time to make comparisons with other craft, speak to the yard about concerns we may have and what they do or don't propose to do about it before giving our considered thoughts on the matter.

The video all has to be shot on the day of the test with Sealine staff on board and little opportunity to check our facts and figures. The video is really there to give people a decent look around the boat and let them see how it performs on the water. Besides we need to make sure there is still a reason for people to buy the mag!

Hugo
 
Another couple of observations: the side decks seem to have two half width strips of teak. (1.20), which looks like a bodge. Also, the ladder in the engine room: I couldn't see any obvious handholds. Sounds silly, but just try climbing a ladder without a handhold.
 
well i thought the video was superb
its a quick insight into somehthing new, for sure there will be downsides but i think sealine are due some praise, the boat looks fab inside and out and they have made something different. my missus would love it and that will be a deciding factor in many many cases. coupled with saving 150k-200k over rivals it would be an easy decision for us.
its easy to criticise but its nice to see somehthing new, bold and fresh that looks fab
 
benjenbav said:
the side decks seem to have two half width strips of teak. (1.20), which looks like a bodge.
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Hmmm, I didn't want to mention for fear of being accused of being hyper-picky but now that you've started it, the teak is awful. See the flybridge shot - there's a half plank to left of the glass panels and a full plank to the right. That's quite a difficult bodge to achieve...

Also the mitred teak "frames" should go around the 4 sides of each glass panel, not around the square area that sits between the two glass panels, urgh.


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Well done Hugo, just what is needed - some positive insight from the horses mouth.
Any manufacturer is going to get criticism from the tyre kickers whom believe they are experts in opinions.
Having seen this craft thoroughly in the flesh, and actually helming it, I can honestly say that it ticks the boxes for me.
There will be niggles and mods, but this is No:1.
Oh, and the interior is spacious and cool even with all that wonderfull glass, even no distortions in the curves. I give Sealine all the praise for being inovative. I know that I would have one if I had to part with my T60, but we are just loving it at the moment.
 
Hugo_Andreae said:
You will find many of these criticisms in the full boat report in this month's MBY. We think this is the more appropriate place for proper critique as it gives us the time to make comparisons with other craft, speak to the yard about concerns .... Besides we need to make sure there is still a reason for people to buy the mag!
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OK, yup, see your point. Fair enough, thanks :-)
 
splosh said:
criticism from the tyre kickers whom believe they are experts in opinions.
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It's a great shame that you aim your bullets at those who express opinions, rather than deal with the subject matter and tell us why the f46 is so good.

The opinions on here (and they're not all negative - I frexample wrote that the boat is worthy of praise and I said it looked pretty in the new MBY pics and I praised the use of light, and of course the great price) are made neutrally and in good faith. I genuinely think the teak and black grp work is atrocious. I'm not out to get Sealine, I'm just stating an opinion on a forum, where it's ok to do that. It's a personal opinion becuase I happen to be geeky about those sorts of details; others might not care. If you think someone's opinion is wrong and that the teak and grp quality is lovely say why. Please don't snipe at the person who merely expresses his view.

And many on here are most definitely not tyre kickers. They're real customers, repeat buyers of new boats.

Seriously, if you've been on the boat and driven it, it would be great to hear more
 
After reading all the threads on here , seeing photos and magazine article and also watching the video , I think that Sealine are rushing the F46 to the boat show and trade press . Maybe they should show it as a prototype and listen to any constructive critisism . I do like the space and light , not sure about size of flybridge considering that there is not even a sunpad for two people to , ahem! , sunbathe . Also was it an effect on the video or was the guys voice echoing . Sorry mr Sealine but i think there is more to do . IMHO of course .
 
I watched the video yesterday before Hugo 'announced it ' here. Saw a link my chance.

Frankly it reminded me of Top Gear in the 70's. You know "well here's the boot - and here's the engine".

Lets see where you stow your extra lines, wash down hose and cleaning gear, tool box et al.
 
As you may have noticed this video lark is still fairly new to us, so it's no great surprise we aren't exactly at BBC standards yet. However, we're learning as we go and hopefully each successive video will be that much slicker and more informative than the last one. We're planning to do some filming of the key new boats as soon as the show opens so keep an eye out on here to see how we get on.

Hugo
 
Hugo_Andreae said:
As you may have noticed this video lark is still fairly new to us, so it's no great surprise we aren't exactly at BBC standards yet. However, we're learning as we go and hopefully each successive video will be that much slicker and more informative than the last one. We're planning to do some filming of the key new boats as soon as the show opens so keep an eye out on here to see how we get on.

Hugo
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Yes - i had noticed! Its a good / nice idea as it brings the whole thing to life of course.

i have done a couple of similar things and frankly until you get used to it - it's easier to film and then do the sound afterwards with voice over. Gets over all the wind noise too which does not add much to the viewing experience.....
 
jfm said:
Nice video, thanks.

I do wonder about Mr Marsh's approach though. Is he programmed only to praise the boat? He loves the engine room space, but is it a good thing when there's no lazerette or crew cabin? 46 feet is 46 feet whether made by Sealine or any other builder, and what differentiates boats is how the space is used. Putting lots of space all around the engines and no storage lockers sounds daft to me. Likewise, the tooling for making the aft pillars seems atrocious - see the GRP finish on the gloss black (1.02 in the vid), esp at bottom right left corner of the frame. And the internal helm seat bench looked like the sofa from a 1972 Sprite caravan but got no adverse comment. The nice sidedecks got mentioned, but not the fact they drain to the aft cockpit. And so on. The clever use of light is well worthy of much praise, as are loads of other features on the f46, but some harsh criticisms are, unfortunately, due too
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I think Mr Marsh is programmed not to offend advertisers. Have you noticed how thin MBM and MBY are getting these days?
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
very nice video..
I like how the boat rides low, thinking it is with pods it is very good and how relaxed it turns with the steering I agree feels like a much smaller boat
love also the wide side decks
the light is nice too and the helm view is fantastic altough in the med that would be become a sauna IMO would be nice to have glass which reduce the sun glare and get darker as on the Altantis yachts
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Me too, I thought the boat seemed to ride at a nice flat angle. Maybe this doesn't help speed though with so much hull immersed in the water. Agree entirely with you on the glass area. Anyone speccing this boat for the Med needs to choose tropical spec aircon 'coz all that glass + the vast upper saloon/lower saloon volume is going to take some cooling
 
Thanks for the link to the video, Hugo. Great to see the boat in action and really shows up the positive aspects well.

Definite impression of a rush to boatshow project - a shame but I guess without a deadline no doubt they'd never get a boat to market.

The really impressive thing will be if they can take the input from customers/prospective customers and build the mods into hull no2. Personally, I really like a lot of the concepts - swmbo and I were talking the other day after (another) rough trip about what we would like in a boat and have to say this includes many of them - a brave effort rather than use the trusted formulae. Sure there are some negatives - I guess it'll be a question of whether one can live with them. I don't think I could live without a decent lazarette, adequate mooring arrangements and dinghy stowage. But then again plenty of aft cabin owners seem to manage.

As for the finishes, Sealine can do a good enough job. Suspect they will pick up a lot of the finishing detail over the next few hulls. In this market they'll have to. There's no such thing as a cheap boat at this size and nobody wants niggles and poor finish.
 
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