Sea toilet bog blog
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dylanwinter
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VicS
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There are no good reasons for keeping it.
Rip it out and get a Pota Potti or even an ordinary Elsan toilet ( look out for an Elsan mini )
Please can I have first refusal on the sea toilet and seacocks when you have taken it all out .......... I'll be able to offer you an Elsan mini or even a Porta Potti in part excahnge
Applescruffs
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What could be more natural than doing what you have do 'dans La Mere' as it were......
I'm sure that a Dylan size poo is about one hundredth that of a Minke whale...and there are thousands of them in the Ocean,(so far only one Dylan thank god), factor in all the other fishes.....Whales.....Porpoises...otters....turtles....etc...and that's a lot of poo deposited in the ocean every second.....so why worry about , what in real terms, is next to nothing; the sea is a frightlingly large place and plenty big enough to absorb a bit more 'food' on a very ad-hoc basis....
It's all natural...etc and biodegradable....and just as nature intended....which can't be said for chemically fuelled porta potties et al.....work of the devil, nasty things...forever slopping about and keeping me awake at nights.
Even if boats hadn't been invented I guess that man...and a lot of other animals would be reliving themseleves in the ocean anyway.
And as for 'scratch and sniff'........use cheap toilet paper and all will become clear!
So Dylan... don't feel guilty next time you use the pooper at sea.......it's all part of the cycle of life
On that note I'm off for a beer...
Cheers.
I'm sure that a Dylan size poo is about one hundredth that of a Minke whale...and there are thousands of them in the Ocean,(so far only one Dylan thank god), factor in all the other fishes.....Whales.....Porpoises...otters....turtles....etc...and that's a lot of poo deposited in the ocean every second.....so why worry about , what in real terms, is next to nothing; the sea is a frightlingly large place and plenty big enough to absorb a bit more 'food' on a very ad-hoc basis....
It's all natural...etc and biodegradable....and just as nature intended....which can't be said for chemically fuelled porta potties et al.....work of the devil, nasty things...forever slopping about and keeping me awake at nights.
Even if boats hadn't been invented I guess that man...and a lot of other animals would be reliving themseleves in the ocean anyway.
And as for 'scratch and sniff'........use cheap toilet paper and all will become clear!
So Dylan... don't feel guilty next time you use the pooper at sea.......it's all part of the cycle of life
On that note I'm off for a beer...
Cheers.
Searush
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Well my Lavac mascerates the output extremely well - to the point where the toilet paper is simply tiny shreds that dissipate & will decompose very quickly.
The problem with chemical loos is finding places to empty them. It's OK on the canals, there are plenty of places provided, but at sea, you need to find a public loo where you can carry your cassette to without dribbling it down your leg & possibly into the dinghy. The loo in my motorhome will fill up in a couple of days with the family on board, with just me it will last for a week or two. Fine for people who never leave the marina tho.
If you must use a chemical loo, you do not need to use formaldehyde based chemicals, there are "green" biodegradeable solutions you can use. In addition, if you want to go the whole "green" hog, you can get externally vented "SOG" kits to keep the inside of the boat smell free as the deposits decompose in the tank. Might not be quite so pleasant for your marina neighbours tho.
The problem with chemical loos is finding places to empty them. It's OK on the canals, there are plenty of places provided, but at sea, you need to find a public loo where you can carry your cassette to without dribbling it down your leg & possibly into the dinghy. The loo in my motorhome will fill up in a couple of days with the family on board, with just me it will last for a week or two. Fine for people who never leave the marina tho.
If you must use a chemical loo, you do not need to use formaldehyde based chemicals, there are "green" biodegradeable solutions you can use. In addition, if you want to go the whole "green" hog, you can get externally vented "SOG" kits to keep the inside of the boat smell free as the deposits decompose in the tank. Might not be quite so pleasant for your marina neighbours tho.
NormanS
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To those people who say that you shouldn't put the loo paper through the toilet, - what do you do with it?
The mind bogles.
The mind bogles.
interloper
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While it is true that fish poop in the water, it is also true that there aren't many parasites and communicable diseases that humans can acquire from fish poop. I'm not accusing any member of this forum of carrying parasites and communicable diseases, but there certainly are such carriers in the general population, and we can't have laws that allow only certain members of society to poop in the water.
I would vote for replacing the toilet with a porta-potty.
I would vote for replacing the toilet with a porta-potty.
Evadne
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It is 100% organic with no added carbon emissions or chemicals. I don't speak from direct knowledge of loo paper composition, but given the delicacy of where it is used, it can't have many nasty chemicals in it.
Shore toilets use mains water to flush, so even in this year's climate that water has to be pumped from a reservoir, purified, chlorinated and sent down a leaky pipe to the end of the pontoon, where you use it to flush the bog, then pumped all the way back to the sewage farm before being pumped into the sea. The difference is, the organic matter (fish food) has been digested so when the town of Brough pumps its poo into the sea, it doesn't cause (a) algal blooms and other pollution and (b) a nasty smell and (c) it doesn't propogate nasty bugs into the wider environment.
Your sea toilet is too small and has insufficient output to cause (a) or (b) with only you using it, I would hope. So provided there's only one of you, you haven't eaten 500 curried FB pies in the last 24 hours and you haven't got TB or Lyme's disease, then you are doing the right thing. A holding tank in marinas, or close to swimming areas is a socially responsible thing to have, but then so is using the facitlities that you are paying for.
Hope this helps,
Dave
mjcoon
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To those people who say that you shouldn't put the loo paper through the toilet, - what do you do with it?
The mind bogles.
Evidently you have not chartered, or even holidayed, in Greece or Turkey. It is normal ashore and afloat to use a pedal bin for soiled paper. It gets put out with the rubbish from the boat; I have no idea what they do in marina toilets etc; probably compost it.
We use nappy sacks, by way of double-wrapping; each to his/her own...
Mike.
Fantasie 19
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To those people who say that you shouldn't put the loo paper through the toilet, - what do you do with it?
The mind bogles.
You've clearly never been to Greece..
Edit: Whoops...Lakey'd!
NormanS
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You're quite right, I've never been to Greece, and if the custom there is to store used toilet paper in a pedal bin, in a hot climate, then I'm not sorry. It sounds astonishingly insanitary. Yeuck!
dylanwinter
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well that is one of the unexpected upsides of sailing in the UK rather than chartering in Greece.
reasons to be cheerful part 1
Fantasie 19
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Not custom... technical necessity due to design of their sewerage system... smaller pipes.... never found it to be a problem by the way, bins emptied daily...
Evadne
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Same practce ona Turkish ship I sailed on, no AC so you made sure that you 'went' early in the day, even if it was just for a wee. Not the smell, put having to push down the contents of the bin to get your bit of paper in....
Searush
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In Russia, they have wire baskets & burn it (occasionaly).
Yes, I would not want to store any of my own used toilet paper, never mind having to deal with other peoples. As I can be away from a harbour for several days at a time, the use of anything other than an efficient sea toilet would be extremely difficult. Altho I could have my constitutional alongside the dog on the beach each morning & evening, & then bury it. But that does rather depend on finding deserted beaches twice a day - not always that easy in the height of summer.
Digging a hole on abeach to empty a chemical closet may be technically OK, but it really doesn't seem more eco-friendly than using a sea toilet. I would hate to be the poor kid that tried building a sand castle on that spot the following day. Nope, sea toilets are clearly ideal for sea use & so they should be, they were designed for the purpose.
Yes, I would not want to store any of my own used toilet paper, never mind having to deal with other peoples. As I can be away from a harbour for several days at a time, the use of anything other than an efficient sea toilet would be extremely difficult. Altho I could have my constitutional alongside the dog on the beach each morning & evening, & then bury it. But that does rather depend on finding deserted beaches twice a day - not always that easy in the height of summer.
Digging a hole on abeach to empty a chemical closet may be technically OK, but it really doesn't seem more eco-friendly than using a sea toilet. I would hate to be the poor kid that tried building a sand castle on that spot the following day. Nope, sea toilets are clearly ideal for sea use & so they should be, they were designed for the purpose.
dylanwinter
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I fear I shall need to use some careful wording if I am not to upset the Americans who read the blog - mind you the bogs they have in the camp grounds can be really disgusting and they had a pretty tough time on the cruise ship by all accounts
I shall no go to walk the dog and think about loos and seagulls and a possible link
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Searush
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dylanwinter
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surely everyone does
surely all good seamen and ex boarders use rope
stream it astern afterwards
Dylan
surely all good seamen and ex boarders use rope
stream it astern afterwards
Dylan
Yantlet
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Always read the forum while having breakfast, somehow I don't feel hungry this am!