SEA SICKNESS- BEST CURES (NOT GOING TO SEA ISN'T ONE OF THEM)!

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allowing for the fact that we're talking about a tablet, not a fish, I think this advice is misleading. Ordinary Stugeron (12.5mg) is designed to be swallowed - I don't know if it is absorbed from the mouth at all, or just that you have to swallow the saliva in the end so it will get to the stomach. There is an absorbable version of stugeron called buccastem (3mg) which is designed to dissolve and be absorbed from inside the lip. Best not to guess at medical things!
It was a Dr (actually a consultant) who originally gave me the advice.
Of course my experience is only anecdotal and not of statistical or scientific significance but of the many (perhaps 50-100 times?) I’ve tried it myself or suggested it, it’s rarely if ever failed.
 
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Dear god that's hard core.

Wouldn't it be kinder to just let them chuck up in a bucket for a day or two until it passed?
If I thought they'd actually hit the bucket, then maybe. I joined the fun police after a number of experiences, not least of which was having my hood filled by the rail meat behind me.

Reading this Steve?
 

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I think this is a very stupid remark, suggesting that those who suffer from seasickness are just weak. I can assure him that the actual feeling of wanting to vomit is a minor aspect only - the devastating nature of seasickness is overwhelming apathy, malaise and despair, quite impossible to overcome by 'manning up'. It can also strike experienced sailors out of the blue. One day he will get properly seasick, then might understand.
Trust me, I know as much about motion sickness as anyone as it almost ended my flying career. In the RAF we had a desensitisation course which I had the pleasure of attending. It cured me.
 

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It was a Dr (actually a consultant) who originally gave me the advice.
Of course my experience is only anecdotal and not of statistical or scientific significance but of the many (perhaps 50-100 times?) I’ve tried it myself or suggested it, it’s rarely if ever failed.

I have been given similar advice, that placing a Stugeron under the tongue and allowing it to dissolve is a rapid way of ingesting the drug. It does seem to work but like JM I can't prove it.
 

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I have been given similar advice, that placing a Stugeron under the tongue and allowing it to dissolve is a rapid way of ingesting the drug. It does seem to work but like JM I can't prove it.
The next stage when the casualty can't even cope with under the gum or tongue is to insert the tablet into another orifice.
 

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The next stage when the casualty can't even cope with under the gum or tongue is to insert the tablet into another orifice.
Doesn't that affect their hearing though?

We run day trips and it's astonishing how quickly and in what light conditions some people get seasick. Medicating the clients is out though. Especially any insertions.
 

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As one data point in favour of the blood sugar theory, the one time I've felt seasick, we'd been sailing for four hours in bumpy conditions. I wondered why I suddenly felt unwell - normally, I'm immune to any sort of travel sickness - and realised we'd left in a hurry and had skipped breakfast. A couple of biscuits sorted things out in short order.
 

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I used to sail on rallies with a PITA that didn't suffer in his own boat and used to brag that it was all in the mind, "if you think you are going to be sick then you will be" etc etc. He was his own hero type... until his wife revealed that he can get as sick as a dog on a ferry and always prefers the channel tunnel!!

I think as you get older it improves, your sense of balance is not quite as acute.

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All the standard medications work, in varying degrees and with varying drawbacks. There is no substitute for trying one or two until you find one that suits you.
 

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I have never been seasick but have certainly felt it on ferries with others puking far and wide.

I used to take Stugeron for long night sails so I could sleep/navigate below without laying awake wondering if I might succumb, never did though.

My good lady got sick once which she attributed to night before's excess of gin :eek: but otherwise she never suffered and would cook in all weathers even when 'twas too rough to eat her produce.

Had a Septic couple, best friends, sail with us and the lady had behind ear patches that appeared to work well, so well she did not bother to put one on for the last days of their stay. We then had a full F8 gale tailwind ride back from Guernsey to Poole that was pretty darn rough and she was very ill, she later vowed never to go on a boat again. Her hubby took nothing and was fine but he was ex US Navy with many years service.
 

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Both of us get seasick from time to time and guests certainly do.

I’ve found the main things that help are having dry things to nibble, not be cold and not be stressed. So relaxing guests is a huge part of helping them cope with then forget about the nausea. Finally once somebody is tired (and works for me too) then getting them down below and lying in a comfortable bunk works well as everybody wakes up without seasickness. The key thing there is that no time is spent pottering about down below - just clothes off and under the duvet. Any drinks or snacks to be had in the cockpit before going down.

Also being sensitive about talking about food or worse still, cooking something smelly helps avoid those sudden rushes to the heads.
 

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Both of us get seasick from time to time and guests certainly do.

I’ve found the main things that help are having dry things to nibble, not be cold and not be stressed. So relaxing guests is a huge part of helping them cope with then forget about the nausea. Finally once somebody is tired (and works for me too) then getting them down below and lying in a comfortable bunk works well as everybody wakes up without seasickness. The key thing there is that no time is spent pottering about down below - just clothes off and under the duvet. Any drinks or snacks to be had in the cockpit before going down.

Also being sensitive about talking about food or worse still, cooking something smelly helps avoid those sudden rushes to the heads.
The lying down thing worked for us as kids, some sort of sleep and we’d wake up acclimatised with our sea legs - no more sea sickness.
 

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I always erred on the side of caution. Decent breakfast before setting off, plus Stugeron, which doesn't make me sleepy.
Frequent snacks, incl anything with the aforesaid ginger. Keeping horizon in view.

To the question of what happens if you're stricken when out with one crew member - both of you should be able to handle the boat. Fortunately, we took this view from the outset, which was fortunate on our first rounding of North Foreland, as one of us became very sick indeed.

i'm ok on a sailboat but sick as a pig on a ferry.

i tried stugeron prophylactically on a ferry but found it didn't mix with a beer very well, i could hardly make it to my cabin.

on the plus side i wasn't sick.

i prefer to take travel calms which allows me a beer or three without staggering around like a one legged duck on acid.
 

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Ginger. Every ship I work on has a stock of ginger biscuits in the galley. They’re tasty too.
A cruise ship I worked the chef used to brew up ginger tea for the guests if it was getting wild. That worked too.

Don’t worry about getting seasick, I’m a professional mariner and lifeboat coxswain, I can safely say everyone will get seasick at some point, it’s just finding your threshold. Different boats with different motions, the wind at a certain point, the wrong kind of swell, sometime it’ll get you.

I go out in all sorts of filthy conditions and don’t get seasick, yet went on one of the little pleasure “pirate” boats at the seaside with some relatives and despite it being nearly flat calm felt grim very quickly. The week before I’d been out in 47 knots of wind and 10 metre Atlantic swells and felt fine.


Tell me about it.... Some time ago I was persuaded to go offshore on a supply vessel for a change of mooring chains on one of our rigs. Three days, what could go wrong. Well it was mid November and the rig was out near the Dogger Bank.

I joined the supply/anchor handler at Montrose and once the chain was loaded off we went. It was typical winter north sea passage and we stood by the rig for 10 days in heavy weather . According to a colleague who was on the rig we were completely disappearing from view as we dropped into the swells. Eventually we had two weather windows each just long enough for the rig to drop a chain to the sea bed which was buoyed and then take a chain (3500ft 3") from us. Job finished we set of home to Montrose against a Westerly storm. The view from the bridge was spectacular, the motion unbelievable and sound of the water hitting the front of the superstructure loud. I had always slept on ships and boats fore and aft however here the bunk was athwart ships. Not quite sick but the nearest I had come to it in many years at sea on freighters and leisure boats as I went from a standing position to standing on my head with every roll :) An interesting 14 day break from office life.

I have found out that ginger solves the problem for many and is even endorsed by our friend the Headmistress who once confirmed that Crystalised Ginger also worked! I have met other sailors who preferred this to raw root ginger.
 

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Slight thread drift: I've not yet suffered from sea sickness, though I reckon I've had a few close calls. However, I do suffer from Mal de Debarquement, which can go on for several days.

Anyone got any remedies for that?
 

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Definitely agree prevention is the best cure:
Stay hydrated!
Regulate your body temperature
Ginger tea good for both of these..
Keep fed but dont over eat
Stay dry and keep an eye outside (ideally from the cockpit)

Too much reliance these days on pills or other gimmicks rather than common sense.
 
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