Sculling

Um, well if you are gonna do that, you may as well bolt an outboard bracket to the transom and hang an outboard on that. Not an aesthetically pleasing solution, I will admit.........

I would prefer the sweeps myself /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif The dinghy idea has it's merits, but it all depends on whether you are willing to stow or tow, and in the case of the former, do you have room below decks or on deck to do it? I think a cute wee boaty like Mariposa, would be struggling a bit on both counts?

She would look great towing a nice little clinker jobbie around the East Coast rivers and estuaries, but on passage? Aint summat I would want to do.
 
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She would look great towing a nice little clinker jobbie around the East Coast rivers and estuaries, but on passage? Aint summat I would want to do.

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Up here north of the border the term "jobbie" means something entirely different.
 
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She would look great towing a nice little clinker jobbie around the East Coast rivers and estuaries, but on passage? Aint summat I would want to do.

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Up here north of the border the term "jobbie" means something entirely different.

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Bunch of perves! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I used to tow a 7ft 9ins clinker pram with Mytica, except when we went to Holland because I reckoned you can always get ashore without a dinghy there and I didn't want to tow a dinghy across the North Sea.

That dinghy was eventually lost on Selsey Bill when Ned and Kate, who owned her after me, took her to Falmouth and back from the Orwell, towing the dinghy, which eventually parted its painter and took off.

It is much better to carry an Avon Redstart!
 
I had a proper curved single oar when I had a Corribee(21ft)
Despite making a fixed rowlock on the transom and handy snap on yulow,I never really managed to get the boat moving usefully-in fact on one cooasion a neighbour,thinking I was in difficulties,jumped in his dinghy and insisted on towing me!
Sculling the boat however,or rowing from the cockpit with the helm off set was far more viable..
The most effective propulsion was changing the seagull inboard(!)via a seagull outboard to a spiify Japanese l/shaft o/board.
The single oar was quite good as a 'flopper stopper; to reduce rolling when absolutely becalmed though /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Also having a Stuart Turner, I decided to get a pair of oars, each 1.5 times the beam (12' flat-bladed). Facing forward and pushing the oars (cos my bodyweight imparts much more energy than my musclepower!), I can maintain about 1.5 knots - Frangipani is 5.5 tons displacement. Of course, having taken this precaution 6 years ago, the S-T (50years old) has since run without missing a beat, so I have only used them for recreation rather than in emergency.
 
Damn! That'll teach them pesky Stuarts to behave wont it! Hey! works for me....... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Just managed to find an article all about the "ro", a japanese adaption of the yuloh.

It's in the October 2006 issue of <span style="color:#666666"> wooden boat </span> /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, the american mag.

Measurements are given to quite a high accuracy for the shape and proportions.

I think there was another article on a more traditional western sculling sweep, with a good discussion of blade shape and angles etc., but not found it yet.

Anyway, it's all easier than joining the gym post Christmas along with everyone else! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Now then young Jesse! Are you insinuating that our Andy is a touch porky? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I prefer to think of it as being a tad to short for my weight.

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I wondered why Mariposa seemed to be a bit trimmed down by the stern! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I prefer to think of it as being a tad to short for my weight.

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I wondered why Mariposa seemed to be a bit trimmed down by the stern! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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That's a fact.
Since the pic was taken I've moved some of the internal ballast for'ard. I'd trimmed her without taking into consideration 2 bods in the cockpit. Dragging the transom through the water has a very marked effect on speed. Something every small boat owner should consider.
 
Joking aside, the more I look at her, the more I like her, something nice about wee boats like that, there are number for sale at the moment very similar to her. I think she would be better with Gaff Rig mind, but that's just my prejudices coming out.
 
These wee Hillyards can be found rigged any which way; gunter, bermudan or gaff sloop, bermudan or gaff cutter. As far as I can determine the position of the mast never varies; perhaps they're very forgiving with regards to helm balance.

I'll be converting Mariposa to a cutter this year; just for the hell of it and to reduce trips to the foredeck to an absolute minimum.
 
Quick question Smiffy:

Who wrote these words, just a few posts earlier?

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what have you got to loose, except a few pounds?

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Seem familiar?

Anyway, I defy any proper bloke not to have a few pounds to lose after christmas!

I myself would be very happy to lose an inch or two from my waistband. It's not that I'm that fat, but when you're my height, a little bit of belly translates to an extra couple of stone!


Oh, and as SWMBO keeps helpfully pointing out when ever the subject of weight loss arises, I've broken two chairs in the last 8 months!

Incidentally, am I right in thinking Mariposa is a aft cockpit 2 1/2 tonner? Fab little boats; I did a while working at Hillyards, on everything from 2-and-a-half's up to a stretched 12 tonner design. They're definitely on my shopping list. Just got to finish the house first!
 
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Incidentally, am I right in thinking Mariposa is a aft cockpit 6 tonner? Fab little boats; I did a while working at Hillyards, on everything from 2-and-a-half's up to a stretched 12 tonner design. They're definitely on my shopping list. just got to finish the house first!

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Check my profile. She's a 2 1/2 tonner. I'd definitely move up a ton or two given the chance, but as you say, they're cracking little boats.
 
Sorry, silly arse that I am it only occurred to do that after I had posted! Changed it now, but alas too late!

I rebuilt the coach roof and beams on one, as well as a few other little jobs, very nice, but a little too small inside for me.
I'd jump at an aft cockpit 6 tonner, just the right size to get away now and then but easy to manage. Hope the cutter rig works nicely for you. Hillyards always seem a little low on sail area. Tell you what, nice bowsprit to go with the cutter rig, and a gaff main to balance it coming down to short bumpkin, make her sing through the water! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Now you is talkin'! I take it you mentioned the bumpkin to hang the mainsheet off of? He would have to have running backstays as well of course....mind you, I don't think a bumpkin would be really necessary, should be able to use existing mainsheet arrangements?
 
I'm not converting to gaff as the mast is rectangular, albeit with rounded corners. The bumkin carries the backstay to clear the 11' boom. Mainsheet is on an iron horse across the back of the cockpit.
I may fit running backstays to meet the head of the jib which will be approximately halfway between the lowers and the cap. On the other hand I may just fit another pair of permanent shrouds.
Just for interest, Mariposa's rig has never ran to spreaders.
 
Don't you go worrying about having a square mast now! I am sure Fat Jesse will soon trim up a tree for ya, as soon has he has mended the two chairs he has busted! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Incomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnng! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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