Schengen ETIAS travel authorization

Trident 24 said:
Probably but I don't know for sure.
I will ask him, does it make a difference?
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If his birth was registered in fact I think it doesn't matter because he can ask the mairie from the village or town he was born in for an up to date copy ie he has then the ability to claim his nationality or you can probably use that as proof that your farther was born in France.
 
I've travelled a fair part of the World to quite a few countries (enough to need two passports for different stamps), I've lost my passport in New York, I've wondered into a different country by mistake a couple of times and none caused me significantly more or less bother than travelling to EU countries whilst the UK was a member of the EU (or before or since for that matter). In fact the only time I've had my travel plans disrupted by customs or similar was in Cherbourg when we had the engine running ready to go and got checked but we couldn't find the SSR doc anywhere. Spent a few hours searching (very patient douaniers) and eventually found it in a saucepan. We ended up going to St Vaast instead of Guernsey.

Don't understand the fuss frankly...
 
grumpy_o_g said:
I've travelled a fair part of the World to quite a few countries (enough to need two passports for different stamps), I've lost my passport in New York, I've wondered into a different country by mistake a couple of times and none caused me significantly more or less bother than travelling to EU countries whilst the UK was a member of the EU (or before or since for that matter). In fact the only time I've had my travel plans disrupted by customs or similar was in Cherbourg when we had the engine running ready to go and got checked but we couldn't find the SSR doc anywhere. Spent a few hours searching (very patient douaniers) and eventually found it in a saucepan. We ended up going to St Vaast instead of Guernsey.

Don't understand the fuss frankly...
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I suspect you do, but just wont admit anything could possibly be negative about ”regainingcontrol”. Its a common phenomenon which baffles me. There are downsides to being in the eu, and downsides to not being in it. It baffles me that folk cannot admit to any that apply to their vote, regardless whether that was in or out.
 
It was an observation, nothing more. I'm not quite clear how going from the UK to another country has anything to do with the UK anyway - the controls are imposed by the country into which you are entering surely? You could travel to France, etc. before the EU, during the EU membership and after the EU membership.

It's great when people share knowledge and experiences on this forum and I'm all for making life easy but, considering the knowledge of buoyage, lights, sound signals, tides , meteorology, etc. a skipper or watchkeeper should have before we even consider their ability to actually sail a boat, if they can't work out the procedure to enter the country they're going to then it's probably better if they don't try it quite frankly.

This is now dangerously close to current affairs (especially the bit about tides) so this will be my last post on the subject.
 
True, you could go before during and after, but its significantly different and more impactful now than it was in the last 40 odd years of eu membership. Hence the fuss.
It is admittedly , a first world problem, but a pita is a pita, regardless. And the UK chose to leave the EU, and thus have these restrictions imposed, so it does rather have something to do with the UK.
But your right, it is getting dangerously close to current affairs, so I will also post no more on the sunject.

Though I would like to know if the new Eitas system, when up and running, will remove the need to use official ports of entry?
 
steve yates said:
Though I would like to know if the new Eitas system, when up and running, will remove the need to use official ports of entry?
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I don't see why it would, it's only in effect a visa allowing you to enter Schengen, not where or when. They'll still want to log you into the other new system coming on line next year, whatever that's called - can't remember.
 
Graham376 said:
I don't see why it would, it's only in effect a visa allowing you to enter Schengen, not where or when. They'll still want to log you into the other new system coming on line next year, whatever that's called - can't remember.
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Didn't I read they were going to have biometric readers in marinas at some time to enable people just to log in the data of presence etc in Schengen would be automatically logged.
 
Forgive me if I am missing something, but I can't see anything about what it means for UK citizens who are resident in a Schengen country, in my case Greece. I regularly travel between the two, spending most of the year in Greece. WiIl I need ETIAS to be able to fly direct from UK to Greece? WIll I need it for land travel between UK and Greece, via France and Italy?
 
AndrewB said:
Forgive me if I am missing something, but I can't see anything about what it means for UK citizens who are resident in a Schengen country, in my case Greece. I regularly travel between the two, spending most of the year in Greece. WiIl I need ETIAS to be able to fly direct from UK to Greece? WIll I need it for land travel between UK and Greece, via France and Italy?
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Answer already posted #10
 
Graham376 said:
Answer already posted #10
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Thank you Graham376, sorry I didn't pay attention to your earlier post, too busy reading LadyInBed's ETIAS link.

I hope French Immigration also takes note. Back in December at Dover they waved aside my residency permit, and stamped my passport anyway.
 
AndrewB said:
Thank you Graham376, sorry I didn't pay attention to your earlier post, too busy reading LadyInBed's ETIAS link.

I hope French Immigration also takes note. Back in December at Dover they waved aside my residency permit, and stamped my passport anyway.
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Sorry. Who stamped your passport? A French or an English immigration officer?
 
AndrewB said:
Thank you Graham376, sorry I didn't pay attention to your earlier post, too busy reading LadyInBed's ETIAS link.

I hope French Immigration also takes note. Back in December at Dover they waved aside my residency permit, and stamped my passport anyway.
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The French action seems reasonable as 90/180 still applies to you within Schengen but outside Greece doesnt it ? The tricky bit is going to be finding somone to stamp you 'out of Schengen' when crossing into Greece if you dont travel direct.
 
RobbieW said:
The French action seems reasonable as 90/180 still applies to you within Schengen but outside Greece doesnt it ? The tricky bit is going to be finding somone to stamp you 'out of Schengen' when crossing into Greece if you dont travel direct.
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Sounds about right...
"I have been issued a long-stay visa by one EU country. Can I travel to other EU countries?"

If you hold a long-stay visa or a residence permit from one of the 22 EU countries that are in the Schengen area, you can move freely in this area for up to 90 days during a 180 day period on the basis of your long-stay visa or residence permit AND a valid travel document.
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RobbieW said:
The French action seems reasonable as 90/180 still applies to you within Schengen but outside Greece doesnt it ? The tricky bit is going to be finding somone to stamp you 'out of Schengen' when crossing into Greece if you dont travel direct.
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Residents passports should not be stamped when in transit to/from their country of residence -

Thank you for contacting the Europe Direct Contact Centre and apologies for the late reply.

We have consulted the Directorate-General for Justice and Consumers (DG JUST). They can inform you that when transiting via another country than the Member State of residence, passports should not be stamped on entry/exit. Residence permit holders are not limited to the maximum period of stay of 90/180 days within the Schengen area as they have a right of residence going beyond these days in the Member State which issued the residence permit.
 
Graham376 said:
We have consulted the Directorate-General for Justice and Consumers (DG JUST). They can inform you that when transiting via another country than the Member State of residence, passports should not be stamped on entry/exit. Residence permit holders are not limited to the maximum period of stay of 90/180 days within the Schengen area as they have a right of residence going beyond these days in the Member State which issued the residence permit.
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Thanks, even read your post 10 before replying - however that does imply that residence rather than citizenship is the trigger for full Schengen access
 
RobbieW said:
Thanks, even read your post 10 before replying - however that does imply that residence rather than citizenship is the trigger for full Schengen access
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Residence doesn't give unlimited Schengen access except in the country of residence. I have permanent residence in Portugal but, travelling alone, am still limited to 90/180 elsewhere. However, being married to an EU citizen (same would apply to civil partnership) I have unlimited time throughout Schengen when travelling with her, subject to the normal rules about registering presence if in one State >3 months.
 
Graham376 said:
Residence doesn't give unlimited Schengen access except in the country of residence. I have permanent residence in Portugal but, travelling alone, am still limited to 90/180 elsewhere. However, being married to an EU citizen (same would apply to civil partnership) I have unlimited time throughout Schengen when travelling with her, subject to the normal rules about registering presence if in one State >3 months.
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Understand all that but the excerpt from DG JUST you posted implies something different
 
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