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You nip into ybw and lo! another scenario by one of the regulars. This time, it's one where things go a bit badly wrong, rather than the ones where it's yet another colregs issue. What do you think?

Would it be fair to say "i wouldn't have been in that situation" or is this not really answering the question? How badly wrong does the situation have to have gotten before you take a holier than thou stance and rip into them "for goodness sake etc etc." Are scenario-writers really looking for assurance that they did the right thing? -or genuinely asking for opinions? And at what point is it ok to "go funny" or lapse into scottish dialect? - presumably not too early if the situation was v serious?

I wd be interested to hear your thoughts.
 
one would hope this is the perfect medium to share common experiences and knowledge
there must be several hundred years of practical experience on here sometimes, and if we take theoretical stuff too ..... well, you guess the depth of the untapped font

so what if some of its sniping carping balderdash, we all can sort the wheat from the chaff.
only exception is when the pontificating is totally incorrect or pure bullsh*t .......

as to bigoted biased opinions, maybe ppl need to espouse them in an anonymous forum like this as well ...... test the temperature of the water so too speak
 
the scenario author who's a respected, esteemed, and senior member of the educational establishment was, I thought, writing a political satire on his boss, Ms Kelly, and therefore it was perfectly alright to "go funny" as early as possible ...
 
Mat,

Surely we've all got ourselves into situations that with hindsight we should have not been in....?

IMHO the mark of good seamanship is how you deal with those situations...

As a simple example, I crossed the channel from Plymouth to Guernsey 15 years or so ago, and got a fairly dense sea fog half way across.... no radar...... We still entered the TSS..... now, with more experience, and a bit more common sense I would probably have turned around, and gone back home....

BUT.... its still very relevant to have the skills to put together a plan to handle being in the TSS with no radar, in fog for the best outcome isn't it?

I for one really enjoy them... and being put in difficult and unlikely situations gives you the edge for the more likely everyday scenarios.... and is a great way for the more experienced here to pass on their knowledge and skills to the less experienced folks like myself....

I dropped in to 'funny' too quickly on one yesterday, and was gently put in my place... which is fine by me.... I apologised quickly, and then went on to gain valuable learning from the thread.... If the thread has genuine educational value, it will be self regulating as posters will pretty much ignore satire or repost, or knock it down....

all IMHO of course....
 
I don't think adopting the "I wouldn't have been there" stance is answering the question - but then again - if you haven't been there - how can you answer it?
I like to think despite all our preparations and preparedness - we have all ended up in some situation which we'd have best avoided if the absolute science of hindsight could be applied - or is it just me?
I guess the "crime" is in repeating such situations
 
Oh believe me - I've spent ages stooging around at anchor or in a Marina - I know when not to go out - its the situations that creep up on you when you are out that intrigue me and those normally offer lessons in themselves - what was the quotation - 'ships are safe in harbours, but ships weren't built to stay in harbour'

Anyway - in Scotland its always pleasant and there's never any big seas or anything and loads of Islands to hide amongst - so there's no question of not going out /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
mate with a flashish new high-sided 43-foot mobo, after years in a sailing boat, was invariably inviting people on board - "corporate entertertainment" as he said. As you describe, there was massive pressure on him to go out ALWAYS - newbies just didn't "get" loafing about on board. This is probably worse than your situation when you have more exp. saily types on board, and especially cos you are in scotland where the weather is always so balmy and pleasant.
 
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