Salvage Law - Any Practical Experience?

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Well, at least I'd like a ride on his boat. Yer Honour. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Well im not rowing with you lot onboard thats for sure. lol.

Joking aside. Both me and Suzy owe you guys bigtime.

You, Debs and Kwaka were an absolute godsend in times of need. And that will NEVER be forgotten.

Things have yet to be sorted out with Take5 (this is why I have been absent from here for so long, it has got me down somewhat) but we 100% know we are indebted to you, and we will show our appreciation by whatever means possible when we can (non "mucky" means that is. lol).

All the best.
 
I am reluctant to post in the forums present climate of have a nasty pop at each other, in the interest of the first question and how to avoid falling into traps I will add what I know from experience.

This needs to be read with caution.
As in all real true life events the so called experts who end up dealing with these cases are usually kids who think a law degree qualifies them to make it up as they go along encouraged by other kids.

Most of theses idiots can be sent in any direction one chooses with a highlight pen and a few carefully chosen cases to demonstrate precedent.

As such someone can post on this forum the actual legal position but this will not match what actually takes place in the real world.(pleasure boats with low values up to £1m)
No one wants to go to court so these issues are inevitable sorted out between kids who have been trained by other kids, none will have seen the inside of a court room.

If you break down and take a tow

Are you sure your Insurers will pay anything toward the costs ?

As far as I am aware the law of salvage has little regard as to who's rope is used.
Please refer to my post above.

There could be a circumstance when a recovery tug is placed in danger to attach a rope, under these circumstances the salvage claim would be considerably higher.
It would not make any difference IMHO (but who knows how a judge of the day will react, he could be directed by kids who don't know better) it would not make any difference just who owned the rope.

to demonstrate

If I hand my rope to a tug in calm deep waters or I take the tugs rope in calm deep water it makes no difference.

If the tug has to take my rope from rough shallow water they will be due to much higher salvage but no more than if they attach their own line in rough shallow waters.


I am not an expert.
I have some experience of salvage negotiation.
When I was tasked to this , I took a crash course in salvage negotiation and I studied as many cases as I could lay my hands on.
 
I have had a successful salvage claim against me. And I was as delighted as the Insurance Co was to pay it.

Boat broke free of mooring in strong NWly gale wind over tide on ebb, in shallow water. The short steep waves caused snatch loads on the strops that bent the extremely strong ss bow roller flat and, eventually broke bothe strops. Bear in mind that this was an early Westerly25 and they are very strongly built. The boat went aground relatively undamaged on sand at 1/2 tide just below a high water rock breakwater.

A local claimed salvage on the "wreck", with a colleague, he hand dug a channel for the rising tide laid out my own anchor & broke into the engine compartment so that he could get her afloat & back on her mooring on the next tide. They also kept her guarded against casual theft & looting. Total claim came to £600 (actually 10% of boat value) and included cost of minor repairs, replacement of bow roller, locks & strop plus £500 for all the work undertaken by the longshoremen, including refloating her the following evening while the gale had not yet abated.

At the time I was working 70 miles away and could not get time off, had she been left she would have broken up on the rocks. Insurance saved £5,400, I still had my boat & the guys who worked so hard & well, got a satisfactory reward for their efforts. For me, and all concerned, it was a win-win-win result.

I have in turn helped others to save their boats for no reward, but in the above case, there was a considerable amount of work, skill & some risk in what was done, in the cases where I have helped, there has been much less effort, risk or cost to me.
 
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You, Debs and Kwaka were an absolute godsend in times of need. And that will NEVER be forgotten.

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And wp1234 for calling in the mayday.

Anyway, the yacht on the beach is now gone and is in PD to be hauled out.
 
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You, Debs and Kwaka were an absolute godsend in times of need. And that will NEVER be forgotten.

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And wp1234 for calling in the mayday.

Anyway, the yacht on the beach is now gone and is in PD to be hauled out.

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Hello Major.

I was only referring to this post (the towing in, etc). I know there were lots of other people I owe a debt of gratitude to on that day. Your good self included.
 
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