Sailing Holland ICC

[kylerichmond]

We have been sailing from the UK to ijmuiden and through to amsterdam into the ijsselmeer for a number of years now, however after speaking to friends they said they were stopped twice last year by officials who asked for passports, boats papers and cevni, im not sure of the size of the sail boat, however we sail a UFO34 which is 10.4m and take all relevant documents including radio licences, passports, vat papers, etc, the only thing we have never has is any RYA qualifications, ICC certificate, or Cevni.
We have never been stopped at all.
My question is that am i right in thinking that because the sailing boat is under 15M and cannot exceed 12 Knots, we would not need to hold and ICC or Cevni for our trip?
and we only have to carry a dutch guide on the regulations

 

[sailorman]

We have been sailing from the UK to ijmuiden and through to amsterdam into the ijsselmeer for a number of years now, however after speaking to friends they said they were stopped twice last year by officials who asked for passports, boats papers and cevni, im not sure of the size of the sail boat, however we sail a UFO34 which is 10.4m and take all relevant documents including radio licences, passports, vat papers, etc, the only thing we have never has is any RYA qualifications, ICC certificate, or Cevni.
We have never been stopped at all.
My question is that am i right in thinking that because the sailing boat is under 15M and cannot exceed 12 Knots, we would not need to hold and ICC or Cevni for our trip?
and we only have to carry a dutch guide on the regulations

you are correct you need nothing more

 

[Skysail]

According to the RYA website:

Certificate of competence:
On Dutch inland waters the skipper of a vessel over 15m in length or capable of more than 11 knots must have an ICC

You must carry onboard:
A copy of the current inland waterways rules (Binnenvaart Politie Reglement (BPR) which is published in volume 1 of the ANWB Wateralmanak (only available in Dutch).

That may not stop a local official asking for ICC and CEVNI?

 

[Modulation]

you need CEVNI but not ICC. They want to be sure that you know the rules of the road.

 

[sailorman]

you need CEVNI but not ICC. They want to be sure that you know the rules of the road.

where does your info come from please

 

[kylerichmond]

Yes where does it state that you need Cevni?
Im due to go in early july and want to clarify this before i leave, i already have a copy of the water almanac book thing, in dutch im afraid so unless really, but it is a requirement.
Can someone verify this

 

[sailorman]

Yes where does it state that you need Cevni?
Im due to go in early july and want to clarify this before i leave, i already have a copy of the water almanac book thing, in dutch im afraid so unless really, but it is a requirement.
Can someone verify this

you need neither cevni or icc

 

[FlyingDutchman]

The OP is almost correct: You only need a 'drivers license' for boats that are longer than 15 m and / or can achieve a top speed of more than 20 km/h.
You don't have to have the Almanak 1, you have to have the Binnevaart Politie Reglement on board. This can be found on the internet and can be printed (although the printing costs could exceed the price of the Almanak 1, it is quite a lot). It is also allowed to have it in electronical form, if you dwnload it on a laptop you plan to take along this could be an option. But it has to be readily available.

 

[eddie2000]

The Netherlands and CENVI

In 4 trips to the Netherlands I have only been once requested for papers by the water police. That was in our 10m yacht on the Noordseekanal and all they wanted was the passports for the crew. We offered the boat papers but they weren't interested. The passports of our friends on a second yacht were also requested. We weren't even stopped they just came alongside as we motored towards Amsterdam. They were very polite, proper and excellent seamanship.

As to CENVI, a certicifate may not be required but the many signs along the canals can be perplexing if you haven't had prior knowledge. I would recommend anyone using the canals to at least have studied the RYA booklet beforehand. I took the test and had my ICC endorsed - it's really not difficult.

 

[ditchcrawler]

As I understand it you cannot get CEVNI on it's own as it is an endorsement to the ICC.I have never been asked for any papers in Holland yet.If you do not have (or need) the ICC then learning the CEVNI stuff is well worth the effort.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

What you do need is plenty of change so that when the lock keepers swing out a clog on the end of a fishing line you have the correct change to throw in. A collection of €1 and 50c coins does the job.