sailing for the beginner .......Part 1 (previously deleted)

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With the rising cost of diesel more of us are looking toward sail as a possible alternative so I thought it appropriate to run a series specially designed for experienced Power Boat skipper who has not previously held the 'sheets'.


Part 1 (well its not actually mine, its ripped off from a popular sailing rag, anyone with an interest can pm me for details on how to get hold of your copy; its on the shelves now /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif)

Skippers tips No3

<span style="color:orange">On passage in an increasing blow downwind with the "boom preventer" on, rounding up to "reef" can be downright dangerous. Its far better to keep on running in the lessened apparent wind, hold onto the "kicker and preventer" take up slack in the "topping lift" and ease the <easy bit > "halyard" gingerly dragging the "luff" down at the same time. Heave the "clew pennant" on as you go to <span style="color:purple"> dissuade the "battens" from fouling on the "shrouds". </span>
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Who's keen to switch from those throttle levers ?



I trust this format is now suitable for the forum /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
If not , I will delete again.
 
Can't see what your problem is. Is it the language? If so, then all of those objects are just about unique to a sailing boat, have a specific purpose, therefore not surprising they have a specific name. Otherwise, how would one differentiate from other objects.

For example

"preventer" a rope and block tackle that stops the boom from swinging wide

"clew" the bottom rear corner of the sail

and so on.

For clear communication and common understanding surely it is essential to have clear and unambiguous names for objects? Is the difficulty in putting in the effort to learn them? I am sure if I spent more time around a mobo I would learn special names for things I don't know about. But maybe the only thing I need to know is that it has throttle levers which need to be open or shut.
 
Absolutely no comment!


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You had a fair point, this presentation makes a lot more sense ..........according to Tranona /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Not sure where you're going with this post and your previous deleted one with the same quotation. There is maybe an undercurrent in both posts of ridiculing sailors?

The piece you quoted isn't at all worthy of ridicule. It just used lots of sailing jargon to get across much thought in only 5 lines or so. Very "efficiently" written, therefore. A sailboat has lots of moving parts and needs this jargon. Anyone who has done even a modest amount of sailing can understand it perfectly, and indeed the writer was making an interesting point in describing how it might be good idea to reef in an unconventional way when sailing downwind.

Everything has jargon, whether you are a mobo-er, printer, builder, accountant, locksmith etc. If you did some sailing you'd pick up all that jargon in a few afternoons.
 
Nope, no problem there. Look up the words and then spend a day under sail and it all makes sense. I'd like to see the same advice for an in-mast furling set up, as I struggled like hell to get enough purchase on the in-haul to get a reef in.
 
I could be tempted to go back (yes, I am a refugee from the dark side /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) but only to something big like the new moody or, dare I say it, a nice Cat like a broad blue or summink
 
As someone who has a MN background, there are just a big an array of technical/correct words on a motor vessel, trouble is, maybe the owner just doesn't know it...
 
As someone who is just learning about sailing, I haven't had too many problems with the terminology. Are you saying that sailing terminology is too complex for the minds of most motor boat owners? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
As others have said, I can't see the problem with the text quoted, and the previously deleted version.

The text and context are very clear, and you seem to have a bit of an issue with raggies that you constantly bait them, here and on the raggie forum, and I can't see why, when you say you come from a sailing background?
 
On which note, one of the questions in our office quiz on Friday was "What was the name of Captain Pugwash's chief assistant?". According to the quizmaster, the answer was "Master Mate". Virtually all of the teams had almost the right answer but thought that the second word was "Bates"
 
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This thread hasn't worked quite as Daka planned I suspect.

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Have I ever planned any posts ?

One or two I suppose, Holiday reports, Installing HSB repeaters and Fitting Teak Decks etc............but posts like this ........do they really look planned /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I cant understand the problem with this one, carefully worded so that it didnt set the trolls off, now I have my doubts looking at the number of posters who waited until I couldnt delete it /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif.
I Kept out to let it die off and sent a few pms apologising but it looks set to continue unless I explain.

There was a forum meet at the weekend and several members had not seen the deleted thread, I felt rude not re posting it , but the second time I carefully worded it , Pinnacle was right, it could have e been taken the wrong way.

Do I ever post to wind people up, no not really, I am often amazed at the level of interest, usually due to others input not mine !

More to the point, did I deliberately try to wind anyone up this time......no, not at all.

I found the passage humorous and I wanted to share it.
I am amazed that no one else saw the humour in it
 
I took it, that it was posted in humour. Something sadly lacking from this forum these days. Years ago it was 90% humour, interspaced with the odd question. Gardeners Question Time, we called it.

Nearly any thread could be turned into humour. Like the time Norman Wyate innocently asked if the river Wissy was navagatable. Where by. Tales Of The River Bank. Was founded. A grusom tale of Toads and Pikes, Colin loosing his legs, oh and Tutts his wife.
 
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On which note, one of the questions in our office quiz on Friday was "What was the name of Captain Pugwash's chief assistant?". According to the quizmaster, the answer was "Master Mate". Virtually all of the teams had almost the right answer but thought that the second word was "Bates"

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Almost as bad as the question;-

what goes deep, is hard and full of seamen?


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Hi Paul,

I dont recall ever posting anything that I felt was untrue at the time .*

Plans......not got that far yet, I tried to send you a pm with detailed thoughts but your pm box is full.

cheers

Pete


*April 1st and replies to obvious trolls excluded.
 
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