Sail Powered Commercial Fishing Boat in the UK...

Many thanks for the info, Len. 45 pots would do me nicely!
1 pot in 5 with a good lobster ... 9x£30 = £270 for a days sailing. Nice change in the directon of cash flow there!
In terms of the ring netting ... I'm not sure it would be possible to catch pilchards / anchovies in this way from a sail boat ... but you have to imagine the faces of the lads in Newlyn if that worked well enough to beat them to the ball!
Drift nets are aparently still used today... that would be fairly straightforward.
Trammel nets I had to look up ... yes ... looks straightforward but lighter gear is what I theorised would be most efective, so I was looking at gill nets.
Yes - the problems all come in when you try to sell (or give away) any part of the catch!

PS... I still own a working Seagull 40 minus. Ticks along like a clock despite being over 50 years old and hard used!
:)

Bajansailor ... yes ... cargo.
Greyhound ... what a beauty! Thanks also for the "teach a man to fish" link ... don't know how I missed them!
Did consider a triangular route out to the Scillies, Channel Isles then back to Falmouth.
The boat I am looking at (still on paper) has huge (1.3m) deck hatches and room in each of two holds for >1m3.
 
Or someone else who does have an engine will get to your pots before you and have no qualms about lifting them because you've muscled on on their patch?
 
CaptinHaddock said:
3) there is strong resistance to the idea of suplimenting sails with an electric motor, and disagreement as to what constitutes an engine in this context.
Click to expand...

I don't think anyone has objected to the idea of supplementing sails with an electric motor, except as a viable means to avoid the need to licence a fishing vessel.

The only person disagreeing that an electric motor would count as an engine is you. You asked in your first post whether it would, and everyone responding to that question has told you it would.

CaptinHaddock said:
8) distrust anyone who has a cute little seal as their avatar ... (joke?)
Click to expand...

:p (joke?)
 
The Fal Fishing Order (a gripping read here https://secure.toolkitfiles.co.uk/c...Byelaws and orders/Fal-Fishery-Order-2016.pdf) which governs the oyster boats, lays out that the vessels must not use “mechanical means” to conduct their dredging operations. It later states that hand operated winches are not mechanical means. The meaning of this is pretty simple: whilst you can use mechanical means to get to the fishing ground, you can’t use them for fishing. Mechanical means covers electric motors as well as diesel or petrol engines. Good luck with trying to bend the rules to suit yourself.
 
CaptinHaddock said:
PS... I still own a working Seagull 40 minus. Ticks along like a clock despite being over 50 years old and hard used!
:)
Click to expand...
Seagulls never (even when new) ticked along like a clock. The ran noisily and spewed oil and pollution everywhere. The high ratio of oil to fuel didn't help.

We had a new Seagull 40 when I was a teenager. It started OK mostly, but was a PITA was a leaky smelly thing of horror.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
 
john_morris_uk said:
. . . The ran noisily and spewed oil and pollution everywhere. . .

when I was a teenager. It started OK mostly, but was a PITA was a leaky smelly thing of horror.
Click to expand...

Character forming! Such things made you the man you are today.

No wonder the youth of today are such lily-livered milksops. ;)
 
john_morris_uk said:
Seagulls never (even when new) ticked along like a clock. The ran noisily and spewed oil and pollution everywhere. The high ratio of oil to fuel didn't help.
Click to expand...
I have a Seagull 40D which my father bought in the 70s and which has been very little used - two seasons in my Jouster. It runs amazingly smoothly and quietly at low revs. Still 25:1, I grant you, thought I ameliorated the environmental catastrophe by running it on biodegradable oil.
 
rum run------whilst pulling strings of pots the boat engine is used in bursts to push the boat along to avoid extra strain on the backrope--------you could use a powered winch to haul singles or doubles but frankly its probably as quick to pull by hand
 
JumbleDuck said:
I have a Seagull 40D which my father bought in the 70s and which has been very little used - two seasons in my Jouster. It runs amazingly smoothly and quietly at low revs. Still 25:1, I grant you, thought I ameliorated the environmental catastrophe by running it on biodegradable oil.
Click to expand...
I don't know about the 40D, but decades ago I had a second-hand Silver Century which was 10:1 as standard. You could get get an "eco-friendly" conversion kit to enable it to run on 25:1 (a different main jet).
 
MonniotC said:
I don't know about the 40D, but decades ago I had a second-hand Silver Century which was 10:1 as standard. You could get get an "eco-friendly" conversion kit to enable it to run on 25:1 (a different main jet).
Click to expand...
The 40D ("Direct") is what they called the basic 40 after they made the clutch standard. I also have (or had - it's in bits and may not recover) a Silver Century. I had the conversion kits but decided just to try 25:1 and see what happened. Answer: unchanged performane fuel consumption halved. Weird.

If anyone around the Clyde or Edinburgh has a reasonably nice Silver Century looking for a new home, I'd be glad to hear from them. Fair price paid.
 
dolabriform said:
From the link:
Exemptions
You don’t need a licence for your vessel if any of the following apply:
  • it doesn’t have an engine
So, if the boat is under 10 m, and is either rowed or towed in and out of harbour it would appear to be exempt?
Click to expand...

...or it carried a 50 ft rib with 2000hp on davits?
 
Why does everyone think they will get restaurant table prices for lobster? Average 750gm, probably £20 a kg now, when you can't catch many, £12 in summer, often £10. When they are there in numbers, price is low.
AFAIK you can fish wiith no licence with oars and sail. The MMO is starting to look at kayaks, some are fishing for bass at commercial levels, this may have been addressed already.
Bass anglers are upset at being curtailed but there is a substantial impact from them. They say they 'only take one or two' but numbers are the problem. 12,000 fishers, all types, 850,000 anglers, all types.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Top