Sail Numbering

[MatthewCoyne]

Hi all,
I have just been going through the racing sails on my Quarter Tonner, which have been in storage for a while. The boat has a sail no. of GBR7300. All the sails apart from one spinnaker ( the newest looking sail of the lot ) have GBR7300 on them, however this spinnaker has K8110 on it. Is this a RORC number ?
Any ideas anyone ?
Regards,
Matt.

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Well the K is just a predecessor to the GBR designation.... when the RYA (the designated sail number authority in the UK) started to conform to ISAF requirements.....so suggest that its just an old sail acquired along the way.... no particular association with any ratings systems or racing associations such as RORC...

PS... sail numbers can either be issued by the manufacturer, the class association, or the designated authority (the RYA in the UK)

 

[Pinnacle]

Aaahhhhh those were the days.......racing with a K on your sail.

Departs all dewey eyed.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[eclipsemullet]

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Well the K is just a predecessor to the GBR designation.... when the RYA (the designated sail number authority in the UK) started to conform to ISAF requirements.....so suggest that its just an old sail acquired along the way.... no particular association with any ratings systems or racing associations such as RORC...

PS... sail numbers can either be issued by the manufacturer, the class association, or the designated authority (the RYA in the UK)

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I thought to display a K, you had to get an official rating. This meant having your spars measured and taped, for example. Otherwise, you got a Y at the end of your sail number. e.g. 1234Y

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Don't know about that.....

I do know that they now issue numbers as GBRxxxxY, L, T or N with no particular difference between them that I am aware of.... and no measurement required as far as I can see......

I would have thought that mostly a boat would have been class measured anyway, or measured for an IOR or other rating systems handicap before a sail number would have been any use anyway....

Be interesting to find out if people know differently

 

[Guest]

PS... sail numbers can either be issued by the manufacturer, the class association, or the designated authority (the RYA in the UK)

In fact as long as you don't conflict with another such as using K / GBR numbering, manufacturers systems etc. - you can apply your own numbering to a sail as you wish.

My boat has no sail number at all - the builders sequence number long lost by previous owners ... I enquired about a number and had it confirmed that I could put what I liked as long as it wasn't on another boat etc. and wasn't offensive.

 

[MatthewCoyne]

Many thanks for the replies. I guess it would be bad form to use the spinnaker with the K no, along with my GBR numbered mainsail ? How do you get the sticky no.s off ? Any ideas ?

 

[mhouse]

it might be worth gentle heat from a hair dryer to remove the number. turps to remove any glue left and the washing up liquid to remove the turps.

good luck

 

[gandy]

You can buy stuff .. don't know how good it is ...

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selecti...umber%20Remover

 

[PeteCooper]

Sail numbers can also be issued by some local groups e.g. CYCA on the Clyde. I assume that there must be others?

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

My understanding is that while anyone can issue sail numbers, only the 'designated authority' can issue GBR numbers..... typically, a manufacturer or class association will reserve blocks of numbers from the RYA so that they can maintain a sequential run of numbers.... but I only know this from assumed understanding, and happy to be corrected if its wrong....

 

[Swagman]

Sail numbers are only to aid identification by event organisers and have no regulatory values.
Often one will see older yachts cheerfully sailing around with three differing sail numbers and no one has powers / authorities to stop them doing so.....
So unless you plan to go racing - or like the idea of having it all tidied up - you could simple leave things as they are.
JOHN

 

[SvenglishTommy]

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...and wasn't offensive.

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Did they give an example of an offensive number? 69? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[William_H]

Well I would strongly recommend not trying to remove the numbers. No I havn't seen or tried number removing spray but my experience is that the residue of glue is hard to get rid of and the residue then attracts dirt sometyhing awefull. So if it is only one spin then see if you can get away with using an odd number. I think, depending on rules the mainsail number is the more important.

Here in oz most sail numbers are issued by a local club with the club prefix ie EF 1 for mine. However specific class associations also iussue numbers on a antional basis. For international classes then a KA number is issued by the jnational body. olewill

 

[Guest]

Not so much the number as the letters .... use of the words sail number are loose here ...

If you wanted SH*T 666 ...... I think there might be some comment ?