jasp
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Is there an easy way of putting safety netting up on the guard wires/stantions, and are saddle eyes neaded for the bottom? Any advice would be help, cant seeem to get my head around it!
Safety netting
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MoodySabre
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Having sailed on a boat last weekend with netting (for a dog) then if you can avoid it then do. I have never cursed so much - you can't get on and off easily, you can't tie fenders on easily, I almost fell over try to pick up a buoy over the side (for bows to mooring) - it is a b........ nightmare. God knows what would have happened if we had an MOB to recover.
If you must do it for a small dog then just find a way of doing it from the lower guardrail down. If you have small children then make them wear a harness and be clipped on - teach them to know what is dangerous - netting is not necessary. A friend has sailed with 3 children since they were born a boat that doesn't have guardrails.
If you must do it for a small dog then just find a way of doing it from the lower guardrail down. If you have small children then make them wear a harness and be clipped on - teach them to know what is dangerous - netting is not necessary. A friend has sailed with 3 children since they were born a boat that doesn't have guardrails.
CSFenwick
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Had netting on for four years to stop the kids from going overboard and whilst you do have to think where you want the fenders before you place them, it's isn't half useful for stopping things - fenders, boat hooks, bags etc from going overboard. Once you get used to it you feel naked without it.
From recollection I undid the guard wires at one end and took them back to the other end of the boat then re-threaded back through both the nettings and of course each stanchion. Then made the bottom fast with thin line spiralled along the toe rail and through the netting (our toerail has holes every 20 cm or so). Probably took two of us an hour (maybe 2) to do it a 38ft boat. Perhaps it is an acquired taste but it does give you peace of mind.
Unsure why you feel it makes it harder to get onboard? Maybe because it was bows-to??
From recollection I undid the guard wires at one end and took them back to the other end of the boat then re-threaded back through both the nettings and of course each stanchion. Then made the bottom fast with thin line spiralled along the toe rail and through the netting (our toerail has holes every 20 cm or so). Probably took two of us an hour (maybe 2) to do it a 38ft boat. Perhaps it is an acquired taste but it does give you peace of mind.
Unsure why you feel it makes it harder to get onboard? Maybe because it was bows-to??
dt4134
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Unsure why you feel it makes it harder to get onboard?
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It's getting a MoB back on board that would cocern me. It takes enough effort to drag them in under the guardwire without having to lift them over the top.
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It's getting a MoB back on board that would cocern me. It takes enough effort to drag them in under the guardwire without having to lift them over the top.
stuey_two
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I,m with Orenda, the netting has more pros than cons. Ours is also fixed with thin cord, to guard rails and a tight cord at deckk level.
If we had to recover a MOB, a knife could release the bottom cord and the lower guardrail in seconds.
I'm not sure how it makes boarding more difficult, unless one's preferred method is to limbo under the guard rails!
If we had to recover a MOB, a knife could release the bottom cord and the lower guardrail in seconds.
I'm not sure how it makes boarding more difficult, unless one's preferred method is to limbo under the guard rails!
MoodySabre
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More difficult because your foothold is restricted. Perhaps there are better ways to do. I just know that when my grandchildren start sailing with me they will get a harness. (I wasn't a boat owner when my kids were young unfortunately).
gardenshed
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I fit it back to the send stanchions from the bow and have nothing aft of that.
As suggested, disconnect the guard rails and thread the wire through the netting.
For MoB: Use a lashing to connect/tighten the guardrail wire and if you need to get someone back on board, cut the lashing and you've no guardrails to worry about, with or without netting
As suggested, disconnect the guard rails and thread the wire through the netting.
For MoB: Use a lashing to connect/tighten the guardrail wire and if you need to get someone back on board, cut the lashing and you've no guardrails to worry about, with or without netting
Ruffles
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Is there an easy way of putting safety netting up on the guard wires/stantions, and are saddle eyes neaded for the bottom? Any advice would be help, cant seeem to get my head around it!
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I've not seem them fitted without an aluminium toe rail. Can't see how it would work without. If it's just to stop a dog escaping a line stretched at the bottom might work. Would it stop a small child slipping through though?
Is there an easy way of putting safety netting up on the guard wires/stantions, and are saddle eyes neaded for the bottom? Any advice would be help, cant seeem to get my head around it!
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I've not seem them fitted without an aluminium toe rail. Can't see how it would work without. If it's just to stop a dog escaping a line stretched at the bottom might work. Would it stop a small child slipping through though?
Chris_Robb
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Hi we have netting up alround for dogs and grandchildren.
The top is secured by a reasonable weight line which is threaded through the net and over the guard rail. However if you can thread the guard rail onto the net, so much the better. Along the bottom, use 4 to 6 mm line an loop through each stantion base and lace through the netting, and then tension it up hard. Works fine for us.
Yes it can be a nuisance when tieing on fenders, so we always tie fenders to the lower guardrail - problem solved. I would prefer not to have it - but dog especially needs it, where as grandchildren should perhaps learn to do without - they will soon learn not to do stupid things..... thats provided they get by the first incident!!!!
Is there an easy way of putting safety netting up on the guard wires/stantions, and are saddle eyes neaded for the bottom? Any advice would be help, cant seeem to get my head around it!
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Hi we have netting up alround for dogs and grandchildren.
The top is secured by a reasonable weight line which is threaded through the net and over the guard rail. However if you can thread the guard rail onto the net, so much the better. Along the bottom, use 4 to 6 mm line an loop through each stantion base and lace through the netting, and then tension it up hard. Works fine for us.
Yes it can be a nuisance when tieing on fenders, so we always tie fenders to the lower guardrail - problem solved. I would prefer not to have it - but dog especially needs it, where as grandchildren should perhaps learn to do without - they will soon learn not to do stupid things..... thats provided they get by the first incident!!!!
jasp
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Thanks for the input, it is to help keep a dog on the correct side of a boat!
TamarMike
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w.r.t. dropping guardrails for retrieving MoB etc pelican hooks would be better than lashings. Although I haven't got netting I find them useful for dropping rails (and dodgers when,occasionally, fitted) to board children & dogs from dinghy.
Where I have been considering fitting some sort of netting is across the boat aft of the pulpit as in the pulpit area there is only a top rail and the dog always looks horribly precarious as he peers over the bow roller /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif However I would need something easily removed and replaced for anchor and rope handling access so haven't done anything yet.
Where I have been considering fitting some sort of netting is across the boat aft of the pulpit as in the pulpit area there is only a top rail and the dog always looks horribly precarious as he peers over the bow roller /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif However I would need something easily removed and replaced for anchor and rope handling access so haven't done anything yet.
Chris_Robb
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Bloody dogs - he is used by SWMBO as a resaon for not beating to windward - "The boat is tipping too much for Kipper - take the sails down....." /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif