tyce
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Re: Albin Vega 27.......
i have raced against a few sadlers and i agree they are a very good boat
i have raced against a few sadlers and i agree they are a very good boat
Sadler 26, be honest!!!
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stevebirch2002
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Re: Albin Vega 27.......
Again with a totally unbiased view - NOT
Decent Vegas cost between £10k - £15K At the top end you will get new engine, sails etc. Many have crossed the Atlantic and 12 have now circumnavigated. Have a look at Webcrafts trip (In the Canaries at the moment) www.znoy8.co.uk for a great read about this great little boat.
I have no trouble going astern with my Vega but then I practiced! Also help-rudder kits available for those that want to drive their boat backwards like a car. Personally I prefer the forward sailing ability which I use for 99.99% of the time!
Totally unbiased Steve B
Again with a totally unbiased view - NOT
Decent Vegas cost between £10k - £15K At the top end you will get new engine, sails etc. Many have crossed the Atlantic and 12 have now circumnavigated. Have a look at Webcrafts trip (In the Canaries at the moment) www.znoy8.co.uk for a great read about this great little boat.
I have no trouble going astern with my Vega but then I practiced! Also help-rudder kits available for those that want to drive their boat backwards like a car. Personally I prefer the forward sailing ability which I use for 99.99% of the time!
Totally unbiased Steve B
Bajansailor
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Re: Albin Vega 27.......
No worries mate, I am in agreement with you in thinking that Vegas are wonderful boats!
May I commend to anyone interested in singlehanded ocean voyaging an excellent book called 'Out of the Blue' by Anne Miller about her singlehanded Atlantic circumnavigation in the late 80's on her Vega called 'Rupert'. It is out of print now, but can be found on the 2nd hand market.
Contessa 26's are also excellent small yachts, as suggested above, and are becoming real collectors items, with their value steadily increasing (I am sure that the Vegas are doing this as well, although maybe not so fast, as there are many more of them - 3,000+ I think, compared to 600 odd (?) Contessas).
We also have a long keel boat, and yes, going astern can be a bit fraught at times, but we practiced as well, and usually the only time we have to use this ability (?) in anger is when coming into the haul-out dock each year for annual bottom paint - we never go near marinas, and are either on the mooring, at anchor, or sailing the rest of the time.
No worries mate, I am in agreement with you in thinking that Vegas are wonderful boats!
May I commend to anyone interested in singlehanded ocean voyaging an excellent book called 'Out of the Blue' by Anne Miller about her singlehanded Atlantic circumnavigation in the late 80's on her Vega called 'Rupert'. It is out of print now, but can be found on the 2nd hand market.
Contessa 26's are also excellent small yachts, as suggested above, and are becoming real collectors items, with their value steadily increasing (I am sure that the Vegas are doing this as well, although maybe not so fast, as there are many more of them - 3,000+ I think, compared to 600 odd (?) Contessas).
We also have a long keel boat, and yes, going astern can be a bit fraught at times, but we practiced as well, and usually the only time we have to use this ability (?) in anger is when coming into the haul-out dock each year for annual bottom paint - we never go near marinas, and are either on the mooring, at anchor, or sailing the rest of the time.
doug748
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I would go for the Sadler 26, if you can afford it. Has already been said it is a very good boat, but I have seen asking prices creeping up towards the bottom end of 29 levels. If you see the two boats side by side it is remarkable how much bigger the 26 is compared to the 25. A girl in our singlehanded series races a bilge keel 26 and fares well in all conditions, including cross channel etc.
stevebirch2002
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Re: Albin Vega 27.......
I have a copy of Anne Miller's book "Out of the Blue" and it is a cracking read. Anne actually rented my Dad's house for 6 months about two years ago. I think she is now doing a Marine Design Course at Southampton. I havent heard from her for a year or so.
I keep my Vega on a pontoon berth in Fareham where I have to berth across the tidal stream most times. Practice is the trick. As Garry Player commented to a fan who said his great bunker shot was really lucky - "The more I practice, the luckier I get" !!
I have a copy of Anne Miller's book "Out of the Blue" and it is a cracking read. Anne actually rented my Dad's house for 6 months about two years ago. I think she is now doing a Marine Design Course at Southampton. I havent heard from her for a year or so.
I keep my Vega on a pontoon berth in Fareham where I have to berth across the tidal stream most times. Practice is the trick. As Garry Player commented to a fan who said his great bunker shot was really lucky - "The more I practice, the luckier I get" !!
SvenglishTommy
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Re: Albin Vega 27.......
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Not in Sweden they dont, 5-7k, which is pretty damn good value. Even Swedish ones dont go backwards though
To be honest I would rather have an Accent than a Vega, until it picked up to a 9 anyway.
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Not in Sweden they dont, 5-7k, which is pretty damn good value. Even Swedish ones dont go backwards though
To be honest I would rather have an Accent than a Vega, until it picked up to a 9 anyway.
Sans Bateau
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DCH
Welcome to the forum.
Our first boat Etap 22
our second boat Sadler 26
Our third boat, well it would have been a Sadler 34, but we were drawn back to Etap! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Our time with our Sadler 26, was a real pleasure, no reservation at all. We had a twin keel version that we kept cheaply on adrying mooring, she taught us how to sail, so forgiving.
Easy to sail single handed and faster than a lot of boats around the same size.
You must get a survey though! Ours had Ozzy that was treated before we boaught her.
Welcome to the forum.
Our first boat Etap 22
our second boat Sadler 26
Our third boat, well it would have been a Sadler 34, but we were drawn back to Etap! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Our time with our Sadler 26, was a real pleasure, no reservation at all. We had a twin keel version that we kept cheaply on adrying mooring, she taught us how to sail, so forgiving.
Easy to sail single handed and faster than a lot of boats around the same size.
You must get a survey though! Ours had Ozzy that was treated before we boaught her.
samwise
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Too right. Sadler every time. However, as already stated, the problem comes if you want to move up from a 29 or a 34, the Starlights are expensive. The main man for Sadler is Mike Lucas at Mike Lucas Yachting, we bought and sold our 29 through him. we now have a Westerly Storm, which just pipped the Sadler 34 on points for us. If you are looking for options there are some good solid Westerlys aroound and there is a very vigorous owners club.
Gin
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I have one on the Medway which I've had for one full season.
It's ideal for me and my two teenagers for weekending, club racing and this year for a bit of extended cruising.
It sails well, suffers no condensation, and is easy to handle for single-handed or with inexperienced crew- I've led all my lines aft to the cockpit, so no deckwork necessary ( furling headsail too of course).
To try to get a balanced view the only criticisms I would make are :-
There is not a huge amount of cabin stowage, so living out of bags at the weekend means that the V berths are stacked with gear. If those bunks were needed for crew, gear would need to be stowed carefully in the small cave lockers behind bunks and in the under seat lockers.
The forepeak sail stowage on my boat needs to be accessible, particularly for day/weekend sailing, to remove/replace the log paddlewheel transducer when not in use or to free weed so a little water gets in on those occasions which really means this space is for spare sails and not personal kit.
The convertible 'double saloon bunk' is not a double at all but a very generous single- which I use.
The 'skippers' quarter berth is a tight fit for my ageing frame and 12st weight to wriggle in and out so my young(17) daughter opts to use that one- this is the only real sea berth as standard but a lee cloth fitted to the single 6ft6" saloon berth opposite the saloon double can easily be fitted with a lee cloth to give a second and more useable sea berth
The cool box is rather small for anything more than a couple of days aboard.
The cockpit with the three of us working in it is very full and any more crew would have to sit on the side decks or below.
In my opinion the boat is ideally suited for three or maybe four at the most.
Overall I am very pleased with the boat, which has a good turn of speed. I agree with view that if one was to upgrade a bigger Sadler would have to be a strong contender as they hold their value well.
As this thread is getting a bit 'old' PM me if you I can be of any further help with your questions
It's ideal for me and my two teenagers for weekending, club racing and this year for a bit of extended cruising.
It sails well, suffers no condensation, and is easy to handle for single-handed or with inexperienced crew- I've led all my lines aft to the cockpit, so no deckwork necessary ( furling headsail too of course).
To try to get a balanced view the only criticisms I would make are :-
There is not a huge amount of cabin stowage, so living out of bags at the weekend means that the V berths are stacked with gear. If those bunks were needed for crew, gear would need to be stowed carefully in the small cave lockers behind bunks and in the under seat lockers.
The forepeak sail stowage on my boat needs to be accessible, particularly for day/weekend sailing, to remove/replace the log paddlewheel transducer when not in use or to free weed so a little water gets in on those occasions which really means this space is for spare sails and not personal kit.
The convertible 'double saloon bunk' is not a double at all but a very generous single- which I use.
The 'skippers' quarter berth is a tight fit for my ageing frame and 12st weight to wriggle in and out so my young(17) daughter opts to use that one- this is the only real sea berth as standard but a lee cloth fitted to the single 6ft6" saloon berth opposite the saloon double can easily be fitted with a lee cloth to give a second and more useable sea berth
The cool box is rather small for anything more than a couple of days aboard.
The cockpit with the three of us working in it is very full and any more crew would have to sit on the side decks or below.
In my opinion the boat is ideally suited for three or maybe four at the most.
Overall I am very pleased with the boat, which has a good turn of speed. I agree with view that if one was to upgrade a bigger Sadler would have to be a strong contender as they hold their value well.
As this thread is getting a bit 'old' PM me if you I can be of any further help with your questions
dch
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I'd like to say a big thank you for all the responses which I can assure you have been most helpful.
Twister_Ken
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SCOD would almost certaily involve more time maintaining than sailing!
eclipsemullet
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SCOD would almost certaily involve more time maintaining than sailing!
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Undoubtedly. But a classic will always entail some TLC.
SCOD would almost certaily involve more time maintaining than sailing!
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Undoubtedly. But a classic will always entail some TLC.
Sans Bateau
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Undoubtedly. But a classic will always entail some TLC
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...for anyone who prefers woodwork and varnishing to sailing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Undoubtedly. But a classic will always entail some TLC
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...for anyone who prefers woodwork and varnishing to sailing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif