s24 wiring probs

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evening all....my s24 has a st60tridata mounted above the dash panel right below the windscreen...i have a fault on the speedo cabling and must replace the cable...the prob is that, from which ever end i trace it from , i cant find the route it takes from the hole it goes into the dash (under the instrument itself) to where it reappears in the stopcock locker....any help n sujestions (legal ones!) would be must kind....cheers in advance to all...
 
I had same problem never did work out where the wire went from the gauge, but the problem i had was down to the speed tranducer itself.So i purchased a new one and spliced the cable together, and coiled up the excess wire, and hung it up in the stopcock locker it has been like that for the last five years, and has never been a problem.
 
H2O said:
I had same problem never did work out where the wire went from the gauge, but the problem i had was down to the speed tranducer itself.So i purchased a new one and spliced the cable together, and coiled up the excess wire, and hung it up in the stopcock locker it has been like that for the last five years, and has never been a problem.
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hi h2o....thanks for the reply.. i know the transducer is ok because the speed pops up n drops off when it feels like it. ..i would splice the wire if i could find it..but i dont want to splice it the wrong side of the fault!!!!!.....ggrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!
 
STEVEDUNSTABLE said:
i cant find the route it takes from the hole it goes into the dash (under the instrument itself) to where it reappears in the stopcock locker....any help n sujestions (legal ones!) would be must kind....cheers in advance to all...
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The helm station was built with all intruments tec as a pre-wired sub-assembly in the electricians shop, then fitted to the boat. Normally there is a panel that can be removed in the cabin to get to connection plugs. There would then be conduits, running for and aft, that carried the electric loom for the boat, and data cables.

So you are looking for a panel in the cabin behind the helm, and a conduit, around 50 x50 mm with a removeable cover.

Brian
 
You have my sympathy. I had a problem with the speed log on my boat. Could not track down the spaghetti, whichever way I started, instrument or transducer. When she came out of the water over the winter, I span the paddle wheel in the vain hope of a solution. Much to my amazement this worked, and has been fine since she went back in.

Moral? Not sure, but check the simple things first. The wiring is a nightmare, so my view now is that if your transducer is OK, then rewire it. Ignore the original wiring. You may never follow it through.
 
Not going to be much help here, but I did have a problem with my Garmin Echo sounder fitted next to the ST60 on my S24. I had to fit a new transducer and cable and managed to trace it all the way back to the Garmin, however trying to think now how I did it! it was some time ago.

What I did was to remove the side panel (starboard) which holds the throttle and the air vent under the steering wheel, with those two access points and a long bit of wire (coat hanger) I managed to present the connector/cable by the ST60. It took me all day to do it and very tight, but possible.

By the way if you want to install addtional wiring, get a long piece of conduit, take the fuse panel off (inside the cabin) and slide the conduit in, it will present itself behind the throttle panel - very easy to do, did this for adding a 12volt socket in the cabin.
 
Wire trace

go to Maplin and buy a tone generator, attach to the offending wire and use the tracer to do just that

30 quid well spent

Ian
 
yez yez yez !!!!!!!

as u can see from the earlyer posts, this has been a fight to the death !!!!!....(mine)...it turned out that the break in the wire was as it entered the sender unit. so the only repair was a new sender + wire ..the unit is supplied with about 40ft of cable YES REALLY !!..the routing prob was almost impossible to follow, so had to make the best of a bad job...the original cable enters the stopcock locker,exits via the watertank overflow, then enters the trunking with the water pipes...this was my downfall coz the old cable was wound round the waterpipe where it will stay!!!!........ANYWAY...........donit it works .......if you need to do a similar job ..."DONT".....get someone else to do it !!!! im still picking slithers of fiberglass out of my arms right up to the elbows 9dys later !!.....hohum.......the joys of boat owning......
 
STEVEDUNSTABLE said:
as u can see from the earlyer posts, this has been a fight to the death !!!!!....(mine)...it turned out that the break in the wire was as it entered the sender unit. so the only repair was a new sender + wire ..the unit is supplied with about 40ft of cable YES REALLY !!..the routing prob was almost impossible to follow, so had to make the best of a bad job...the original cable enters the stopcock locker,exits via the watertank overflow, then enters the trunking with the water pipes...this was my downfall coz the old cable was wound round the waterpipe where it will stay!!!!........ANYWAY...........donit it works .......if you need to do a similar job ..."DONT".....get someone else to do it !!!! im still picking slithers of fiberglass out of my arms right up to the elbows 9dys later !!.....hohum.......the joys of boat owning......
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Hi Steve,

Good to meet you down at Mercury over the weekend. Now you never mentioned you was up to repairs?? I thought you was flouting the fact I was stuck with non sailing crew whilst you was out and about!!..... If you'd have said you was 'doing jobs' I would have been more than happy to watch you whilst drinking cold beer!! ;)
 
paultallett said:
Hi Steve,

Good to meet you down at Mercury over the weekend. Now you never mentioned you was up to repairs?? I thought you was flouting the fact I was stuck with non sailing crew whilst you was out and about!!..... If you'd have said you was 'doing jobs' I would have been more than happy to watch you whilst drinking cold beer!! ;)
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hi paul... as you said, its great to meet the person behind the screen in the flesh etc....dont tell anybody BUT i did the repairs a week or so back and blagged to swimbo that the ONLY way to test it was to go through the TRAUMA of a SUBSTAINSAL seatrial..............nuff sed !!!!!!!.........BUT now iv got a water leak from the below the sink in the head !!.....so MORE fiberglass slivers to come !!.....see you there this weekend ??
 
STEVEDUNSTABLE said:
hi paul... as you said, its great to meet the person behind the screen in the flesh etc....dont tell anybody BUT i did the repairs a week or so back and blagged to swimbo that the ONLY way to test it was to go through the TRAUMA of a SUBSTAINSAL seatrial..............nuff sed !!!!!!!.........BUT now iv got a water leak from the below the sink in the head !!.....so MORE fiberglass slivers to come !!.....see you there this weekend ??
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Yep, will be down over the weekend and hopefully a few days after so no doubt catch up with you :) I'm puzzled though, I'll buy sea trialing the boat cause of the sounder problem, but are you sure swmbo really fell for the fact you need to take the boat to sea cause the sinks leaking?? ;)
 
should have given me a shout Steve, I think I still have an old signal tracer from my Network Engineering days that could have been of use... puts a signal down the wire and you find the cable that has that signal going through it with a little receiver that gives a buzz when placed against the other end of that cable.. it's used to find the endspoints of copper cable runs between floors and am pretty sure it could be adpated to find the cable runs trough a boat.. good you got it sorted

p.s. will be out in the boat throughout August if you fancy a trip out
 
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