RYA magazine

[Guest]

RYA MAgazine

RYa magazine is one of the best for looking for job adverts, I suppose this is because potential employers want to reach the people who are members of the rya.

 

[frankie]

Re: on your face

it is without doubt the most boring, predictable,self-congratulatory,load of cods-wallop that enters my house.i read it entirely within 3 mins.the cat benefits thereafter,it holds water well.if the post- man would be so kind as to put it directly into the bin,that would be a service.
the rya,by definition and history does not speak for me.it is not a democratic organisation.additionally, i have no recall of any direct benefit that this assc.has made for my personal boating pleasure.
every year i consider to cancel my membership, but i,m just too idle. and besides it keeps old farts off the streets.

 

[Buck]

Money talks

For my membership I get insurance and the back up of an established and respected organisation. My yearly fee which gives me this is less than a yearly subscription to a magazine, which could give me a couple of hours reading.
So where will the funds for this new super mag come from?
Advertising can only raise so much and I'm already getting the above insurance etc..
If its that important then you wont mind doubling the membership fee will you?
This really is a nation of whiners.

Buck

Is more than one octopus, octopi or octopussies?

 

[Guest]

Re: Money talks

For many years there was no such thing as an RYA magazine. You just paid your money, got your racing boat measurement cert free, and that was that.

All these other things intrude upon the raison d'etre of the RYA. Why a credit card? It is not their business.

Magazine on the other hand can be said to be; most clubs have one.

If it is paying for itself with advertising we have no cause to complain except the nuisance of having it forwarded abroad when cruising (which is expensive) and the trouble of disposal when the world is gash-overloaded. I can see that if the RYA produced a first class mag, the first to complain might be IPC. I am not into knocking the mag for the moment. I wanted it to be discussed, which I'm sure the RYA will not resent. I am sure that the production method does not do justice to the journos involved.

But there is evidence of censorship. When I sent a letter for publication, it was sent to the Secretary general who quite clearly had it suppressed after writing to me to say he disagreed with me and intimating that he did not want that suvbject discussed. What was it? Let's start another thread.

William Cooper

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

Bill,

I'm not saying the RYA is a perfect organisation, in fact judging by other threads within this e-tome, it appears to be a bit of an old farts club, jobs for the boys type organisation, no doubt funny handshakes abound etc.. but the membership fee is pretty good value and the mag reflects in my opinion what I would expect given what I already receive.

Buck

Is more than one octopus, octopi or octopussies?

 

[frankie]

Re: Money talks

i fail to see that if you critisize,as a paying member,a magazine,or an organisation,by it,s structure is a remote, political,insular,organisation.that this is whining! why?we the members should benefit by being in and interested in the activities of the club. it also works,or rather should work the other way.i should as an active member be aware of my assc. and it,s aims.and it should be interested enough to be asking what are mine.it does,nt.
pay up and let them get on with it may be your philosophy,well we all know where that leads don,t we?.

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

All my point was that the mag is secondary, I am very happy with what I get from membership, as to structure, like any organisation of its age the RYA could probably benefit from a bit of a shake up, but if you want a good mag as well as insurance and a political voice then stump up the cash.

Buck

Is more than one octopus, octopi or octopussies?

 

[frankie]

Re: Money talks

you really don,t get it buck,do you?if they can,t spend what we give them more intelligently,why suggest to give more? cost-effectiveness. value for money,etc.etc. you must have more than me,octopussy!

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

Frankie,

A one year subscription to YM costs £34.56, for this you do not receive insurance or any political lobbying, your the one who cannot grasp it, your adding £10 and £15 and coming to the total of £55, I can see now that comprehensive education has a great advantage over secondary..... or was it borstal?

Buck

the past is past, only the future can change.

 

[steve_edwards]

Re: Salami slicing

Don't knock Saga. It's a better read than the RYA or RNLI mags. Sad but true.

 

[frankie]

Re: Money talks

i can see from your reasoning buck that education passed you by.not surprising with you sad experiences.should we screen for ex-inmates on this site?
when the insults fly,then the argument is lost.
work it out simply.magazine,not readable..not value for money.my experience of the rya involvement in my yachting area.nil. my boating is not in the south and i have no experience of benefits in my area.i have subscribed to the rya and have done for twenty years.by commenting(critising)from within,it is called democracy buck,it means that i have the right to state my case.but,who listens when i do? how can i change the status quo?i have never ever met or been introduced to a member of the rya,why is that?should they not be available and transparent?not every right minded person,has a rose tinted view!
btw, did you like the porridge?? ha,ha,ha.
the future is where we belong,yesterday brought us to today.

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

You seem very adept at insults, your also very boring.

Buck

the past is past, only the future can change.

 

[frankie]

Re: Money talks

don,t dish if you can,t take it!
"living life,lost the plot,found a penny,ate a fish,swam with sharks,what,s next?
what indeed!
the rya mag.is still yuck,buck.

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

Frankie,

Lets try and get this into perspective, I agree that the magazine is poo, my point was that the membership fee is not adequate to cover the cost of a decent mag as well as support the other things that the RYA do, like insurance and lobbying, therefore if we want a decent mag then we can either buy YM or pay more for RYA membership with the extra being for a better mag. This was all in the previous posts if they had been read properly it would have been obvious. Also before you start, I think the attitudes of the RYA hierarchy are out of touch with the majority of the membership however it is very much in touch with the pleurocratical attitudes of government, yes it would be nice for more balance to be in place but if I had to choose then I would lean towards having it in touch with government, I dont talk to anyone at the RYA so I dont give a damn as long as they do their job I feel happy with the membership fee. As to your point about dishing it, I can take it very well thankyou, you seem to have a problem, you have alluded to my southern status as some sort on snide comment, however I was born and raised in the northeast, I am sure that this conversation would'nt be taking place over a beer in the pub.

Buck

btw. pm me if you wish to reply I can't be arsed to go back two days in the posts.

the past is past, only the future can change.

 

[frankie]

Re: Money talks

actually buck we were saying the same thing,i have no axe to grind one way or another with the south.i reacted to your ill judged remarks viz:education.no need for that buck.if you have seen direct benefits from membership of the rya,then show me,that,s all i ask.no one from the rya can be found to do that.do i still throw my subs.down a black hole and hope for the best??the other threads have said part of what i have said,but i,m saying it for me,not them or you.goodnight orville!

 

[Buck]

Re: Money talks

Hells teeth, it took a long time for us to get there. Where do you sail? I live in the south now for the simple reason I can earn more and the sailing is better. The RYA generally has a problem crossing over the immovable barrier of the Thames, but as I say I am relatively happy with what I percieve I get from membership, anyone who is'nt can vote with their fees, its not compulsory to be a member afterall.




Buck

the past is past, only the future can change.