oakleyb
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I'm looking into buying a boat that has an old volvo md7b saildrive, the owner states its been serviced yearly. The problem is its very rusty on the outsides - what would you do
rusty engine
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Aja
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1 Factor into the price offered that you will have to replace the engine at some time in the future
2 Ask for an engine sea trial
3 Receipts for parts replaced (oil/fuel filters etc)
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Donald
2 Ask for an engine sea trial
3 Receipts for parts replaced (oil/fuel filters etc)
for starters
Donald
Will_M
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what would you do
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
what would you do
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
MarkGrubb
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If you are concerned then think about having an engine survey.
Make sure it starts trouble free from cold, and feel the engine to make sure it is cold first.
Find out what was done as part of the servicing. Was it winterised every year.
If the engine starts without trouble, has been thoroughly serviced each year, and gets a clean bill of health from an engineer then there may be no problem and the rust is cosmetic. You can degrease it, clean off the flakey bits with a wire brush and touch it up with some engine paint.
Make sure it starts trouble free from cold, and feel the engine to make sure it is cold first.
Find out what was done as part of the servicing. Was it winterised every year.
If the engine starts without trouble, has been thoroughly serviced each year, and gets a clean bill of health from an engineer then there may be no problem and the rust is cosmetic. You can degrease it, clean off the flakey bits with a wire brush and touch it up with some engine paint.
Evadne
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I'd agree, rust on the outside of the block is not a problem, unless it is extreme and indicates inundation. If it has a new oil filter and anode, and the oil is a reasonable colour then it's been serviced recently. If it starts from cold and runs without smoking then I'd accept it at face value. If he has bills for servicing and/or parts then that's a bonus. Most owners "service" their own engine 'cos it involves an hours work for an idiot like me, plus parts (filters, oil, plus anode and impeller where necessary). Anything more than that I call "repair", rather than "servicing". If you're unsure then an optical boloking by an engineer is worth the money.
bendyone
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what would you do
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
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Depends on the value of the boat,
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
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Depends on the value of the boat,
ShipsWoofy
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
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You're joking right?
What if the boat is being sold for £3k?
Where did you get £6k from, is this a trawler engine or a small yacht motor, why should the seller provide a new engine for the sale?
I am sorry you are in cloud cuckoo land with suggestions like this, or maybe us working class have lower expectations of what a 2nd hand boat is??
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what would you do
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Knock off £5K/£6K for the replacement engine package...
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You're joking right?
What if the boat is being sold for £3k?
Where did you get £6k from, is this a trawler engine or a small yacht motor, why should the seller provide a new engine for the sale?
I am sorry you are in cloud cuckoo land with suggestions like this, or maybe us working class have lower expectations of what a 2nd hand boat is??
smiala
Active Member
A rusty engine eh, well either the current owner has nothing to care about or hide ! as it not been given a lick of paint to help sell it.
The condition of the rest of the craft might give more clues to the care the owner applies. My engine is bright/shiny and new looking, and 25 years old, but I can see for any signs of trouble and work on her quite simply, that me though. It runs well as only a few tanks a year is ever used so v. little use.
As long as no rust on shafts to upset the seals then it might be fine, take a look at any seal/gasteks, to see signs of leaking.
As above if she starts from cold, no smoke when warm, sounds fine, and keeps cool, etc, then it depends on the overall condition of the boat v the price.
If you have little mech experience pls do take an engineer to offer advise, his fee will put your mind at rest, or not : )
The condition of the rest of the craft might give more clues to the care the owner applies. My engine is bright/shiny and new looking, and 25 years old, but I can see for any signs of trouble and work on her quite simply, that me though. It runs well as only a few tanks a year is ever used so v. little use.
As long as no rust on shafts to upset the seals then it might be fine, take a look at any seal/gasteks, to see signs of leaking.
As above if she starts from cold, no smoke when warm, sounds fine, and keeps cool, etc, then it depends on the overall condition of the boat v the price.
If you have little mech experience pls do take an engineer to offer advise, his fee will put your mind at rest, or not : )
Lakesailor
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If it worries you. Pass on. There are lots of boats for sale.
smiala
Active Member
excuse my grammer and spelling above, I,ve had a few and am baned to the study as my daughters on the phone with her new ape.
Still I,ve had a long week and so wish I was on the boat, roll on spring pls........
Still I,ve had a long week and so wish I was on the boat, roll on spring pls........
Will_M
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It was a frivolous suggestion, a fact lost on you by the sounds of things…
Think about it though, an MD7B circa early 80’s, that’s a good 25+ years, an engine which is raw water cooled. It may very well be rusty on the outside, its most certainly going to be tired on the inside too.
The MD7B was 17hp, so keeping the theme Volvo Penta, a D1-20/130S engine package retails somewhere around the £5K ex the VAT.
By the time you thrash out a deal you would expect to be paying less than £4K, a decent fitter is going want a good £1K for their time, sundries, boat ashore costs, etc etc…
So, no not a trawler engine, that is a daft suggestion…
No where did I suggest the seller provide a new engine, it was merely a suggestion to consider the costs involved further down the line with an older boat, and as such perhaps use this as means to negotiate a more favourable asking price for the yacht.
Cloud cuckoo land… You’re a funny one aren’t you.
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Think about it though, an MD7B circa early 80’s, that’s a good 25+ years, an engine which is raw water cooled. It may very well be rusty on the outside, its most certainly going to be tired on the inside too.
The MD7B was 17hp, so keeping the theme Volvo Penta, a D1-20/130S engine package retails somewhere around the £5K ex the VAT.
By the time you thrash out a deal you would expect to be paying less than £4K, a decent fitter is going want a good £1K for their time, sundries, boat ashore costs, etc etc…
So, no not a trawler engine, that is a daft suggestion…
No where did I suggest the seller provide a new engine, it was merely a suggestion to consider the costs involved further down the line with an older boat, and as such perhaps use this as means to negotiate a more favourable asking price for the yacht.
Cloud cuckoo land… You’re a funny one aren’t you.
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