Running costs / Diesel Engines / Owt fer nowt?

[BarryH]

Re: Isuzu eh!

Its too good to be true, IMHO. What everyone seems to be missing tho is that getting 120 odd horses out of a 1700cc four pot oil burner, is gonna be running at high stress levels compared to 190 horses out of a 4300cc six pot. Come back in a couple of years time and let me know which one is still putting out anywhere near the specified hp.

If its based on the Izuzu/GM block, watch the thing eat cylinderheads/timing gera at high engine hours. I think I'd stick with the old black nail, knowing its tried and tested over a number of years thanks!!

OK, to hell with it. Unbolt it and we'll use it as an anchor!

 

[mustard]

Agreed, but if BMW can get 214 BHP from 3 litres of diesel, what is V***o/Yanmar doing!

Wish BMW made marine engines.....

 

[oldgit]

If boat is for uk you will prob get that £1300 premium in 1/2 seasons.My diesel fuel bill is a fraction of what i was shoving in my petrol boat.For roughly same amount of use £150 has lasted all season on my P33.Would just about give me 4/5 days out on P25 previous boat.

Just hold tight dear it will not be so rough when we get round the corner,trust me.

 

[tcm]

Re: BMW

They used to do so, and I think some were fitted in those very fine Birchwood vessels, very reliable in that they would go wrong every single weekend.

It surprises me that so many have so much faith in BMW as engineers, probably something to do with the ruthless scientific image altho BMW only made cars in volume from the fifties, piles of bubblecar junk in the sixties and batmobile screamers in the seventies. Their advertising leapt into 6th gear long before the cars ever did, and somehow managed to gain kudos from Mercedes and audi and VW. Quite correctly, large BMW cars are worth almost nothing at all secondhand.


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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: BMW

Large BMW's. Dont you just luv 'em. I'm looking forward to picking up a tasty 745i, I-drive 'n all, for half new price in 2 yrs time. Thing is BM make the best automotive engines. Period. Petrol or Diesel. Small or large. Whereas Merc engines are wheezing asthmatic old nails. A bit like the owners, really

 

[Col]

Re: Base engine?

I think it's an Izuzu as fitted to Astra's & Cavelier/Vectra's.

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[ccscott49]

Re: BMW

BMW marine diesels, were in fact VM diesels, (Italian) same as old range rovers and some Mercruiser diesels, they even trial fitted one in a experimental jaguar XJ6. Bloody awful things, seperate heads, skimmed head gaskets, a right mishmash of bits!

 

[mustard]

Re: BMW

S'funny, i thought Lepoards came from a factory orginally owned by Mussolini....

 

[oldgit]

Re: BMW

Arr but you could pick a nice Daewoooooooooooooo for a fraction of the munny.

Just hold tight dear it will not be so rough when we get round the corner,trust me.

 

[jon_bailey]

The Mercruiser 1.7 TDi looks like a very nice package and should be considered as an option on a new boat. Unfortunately the retrofit cost (including fitting etc) is £9k as an exchange unit for Mer 4.3l so this is not really an option.

As the wise advice says try before you buy but I believe that performance should be more than adequate. Torque does play a part, even for boats, and with the price of diesel you can always run higher up the power curve because economy is not really an option.

Who runs their petrols flat out? We nearly always cruise at an economical throttle setting so on a diesel the economical setting could be 'flat out' and still the running cost will be much lower.

I'm not suggesting you run any engine flat out and what is crtain is that the diesel will provide lower WOT speed. Also cannot comment on life of 1.7 TDi diesel because little in service experience. Will say that Isuzu do make good diesels, as do many others and diesel technology has come along in the last few years.