RTIR hull stickers.....

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AIDY

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The JP morgan hull stickers have just turned up. don't really like advertising... last year i stuck them on.... but debating not too this year.... what's your view....

suppose if know one sponsored it the entrance fee would rise...
 
The RTI is a very expensive race to run, requiring a lot of manpower.
Without sponsors the entry fee would be higher. I don't think it's too much for a sponsor to ask that the competitors display their logo, so that it will feature in any pictures of the event that make the press.
I haven't seen the SIs yet, but other events that have sponsor decals require them to be displayed, with disqualification the penalty for not.

If your boat is varnished wood they usually allow you to put it on the boom instead.
 
Ed,
I can see your point.
However, there are literally thousands of races every year in the UK where there is either no sponsor, or one that does not require you to advertise personally.
These are mostly manned by willing volunteers using safety and other equipment already owned by the clubs participating.
The thought that to enter a race, and display numbers in the size and font, but without the sponsors logo would lead to disqualification is running very contra to the amateur nature of this event.
I know some people get paid top enter, and some boats are full time pros, but the majority are amatuer, and should be treated as such.
Or not bother entering in the first place, which is kind of defeating the object.

I think there ought to be a conscientious objectors category.
 
No there is nothing in the SI's other than displaying other sponser logos.

I think you may take a different view if you raced your own boat and paid the entry fee. the only decent pix i have of my boat is one with a horrid JP morgan sticker on it taken last year /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
As with every race I enter, the RTI has a set of sailing instructions. I've no idea what they say with respect to the sponsor decals, but the fundamental premise of entering a race is acceptance of those instructions. If you don't like them, don't enter. Or more acurately, withdraw your entry as the SIs are not normally issued until after entries are confirmed.

Enough people do that and they'll get the message, but you could then expect the cost to rise somewhat....
 
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No there is nothing in the SI's other than displaying other sponser logos.

I think you may take a different view if you raced your own boat and paid the entry fee. the only decent pix i have of my boat is one with a horrid JP morgan sticker on it taken last year /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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So how much more would you be prepared to pay to have "clean" photos of your boat?
 
The thing is, these sponsors cover a big chunk of the cost of running the race - making it cheaper for the particpants. Perhaps there should be an alternative - anyone who doesn't want to put the hull sticker on can choose to "self-sponsor" i.e. pay the entire cost of the entry themselves.

I am sure a lot of "conscientious objectors" would stop objecting if they had a choice between paying an extra £50 or £100 or £200, and putting on hull stickers.

I have had the good fortune to participate in several sports that were in some way "sponsored", and I came to the view early on that I would happily wear the logos / team uniforms that I was given - knowing that if the sponsor wasn't contributing, it would either cost me more or perhaps I wouldn't be able to participate at all. And if the sponsor didn't see a return on his investment, he might decide to pull out next year.
 
The Island Sailing Club makes a lot of money out of the RTIR.
The sponsorship is jam on top.
 
I would concentrate on having a great day and just go with the JP Morgan stickers.

I wish someone would ask me along to crew on the RTIR. I have a long track record in brewing tea in adverse conditions and calling tactics (mostly wrongly). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I expect Beken have photoshoppe and for a small extra consideration could remove the offending item for you in, as it were, post-production.
 
In my experience they came off with ease within 1 mile of the start line on most boats last year, and that was without the use of detergent....

Lets say removing them at the end of the race wasn't a major problem...
 
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So it would not be another 50 quid if there was no sponsor.
So people should not need to feel grateful that some sponsor is using them for advertising. It's a self perpetuating machine, like Cowes week has effectively hired lots of highly paid executives to liaise with the potential sponsors, which in itself creates the need for sponsorship. Where does all the money go? Theres only a limited amount of manpower needed to start and finish a race.
 
I for one will not be putting them on, I pay to race and see no reason to advertise the sponsor. All the ones I see are half off before the needles and think of all that drag /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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So it would not be another 50 quid if there was no sponsor.

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The corollary of that would be that people will pay you 50 quid for equivalent advertising space?
 
I don't have a problem with the advertising, however i have just collected mine from the post office and blimey they are big. I am only 30ft long, these stickers are going to cover half my hull!!! oh well i guess i could use after to cover up the damage i received this weekend /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
SI 4.6 states ARE REQUESTED to display - that is not mandatory.

I think manufacturing all that plastic is a great shame not to mention resource and cost for sending them out. ISC and JP Morgan please note.

As for the cost of entering the race it is pretty expensive at £70 (standard entry non advertsing) for any size of boat - seems daft it's the same for my 30 footer as an 80 footer. But it is fun!

Good luck everyone taking part.
 
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