RT License AAARGH!!

[Moose]

Whopeee!
I have now got the Survey and Sea trial organised for the P37 I have made an offer on (its all happening on Thursday and Friday)
Now, I have got some 'own boat tuition' sort of organised! (emphasis on SORT OF because nothing is final yet) but I am going to need an Radio license aren't I?
So how do I get one, where and how much?

Also I will need one of these burgee's which you all seem to be soooo keen on!!! (but more important things need to be organised first)

Moose

 

[ToMo]

Go here: http://www.radiolicencecentre.co.uk/rlc/ for the boat licence and your local evening classes for the Ops cert.

TôMö

 

[Mike_Martin]

Hi Moose,

Let me just clarify that other post, at the RLC website you can only apply for the Ship Radio Licence which will cover you to have the equipment installed, available for use and to transmit ONLY if you are in Distress.

If you wish to use the radio for general communications you will need to acquire a Maritime Radio Operator's Certificate of Competence.

If the boat is fitted with VHF only, you will need to hold the Short Range Certificate (VHF only) you will need to contact the RYA, they administer the courses on behalf of the MCA their Website is at www.rya.org.uk

If you are planning to install long-range comms equipment ie MF/HF, Inmarsat etc you would need the Long Range Certificate and for that you will need to contact the Association of Marine Electronic and Radio Colleges their Website is at www.amerc.ac.uk.

Hope this helps,
Mike

Manager,
Aeronautical & Maritime Section,
Radiocommunications Agency

 

[tcm]

Re: try BOSS

boss-sail.co.uk do radio licence courses, based hamble.

 

[ari]

I did mine in a day. Not difficult.

Lots of sea school type places do day courses culminating in a test. You're pretty much guarunteed to pass.

What area are you in?

Ari.

 

[hlb]

When youve done all that, you come to me for the flag.

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[Moose]

Ok, Thanks

It seems stupid that I hold an aviation RT license for Short Range (talking to the ground engineer 20 feet below the flight deck when we are starting the engines) Medium Range (talking to ATC over land) and Long Range (talking on LSB and USB to people the other side of the world, but this is worthless on a boat.
Oh well.

Moose

 

[Mike_Martin]

Hi Moose,

It does seem silly, however, it must be remembered that these are entirely separate safety radio systems and I am sure that you will understand that some procedures are different in them, for example Aero does not have the Digital Selective Calling system that was implemented with the Maritime sector in 1999.

However, as the holder of a FRTOC you should be able to merely read a book on Marine operations and turn up to a centre and just take the test. I will add that I have met quite a few pilots at events that have done this and not passed first time and DSC operation is usually the reason.

Mike

Manager,
Aeronautical & Maritime Section,
Radiocommunications Agency

 

[Moose]

Fine, but I don't have a DSC radio......................................Yet!

 

[brianrunyard]

Fine, but since they introduced the DSC license you can't take a test that dosen't include DSC, whether you have a DSC radio or not.

Brian
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brunyard

 

[Moose]

Fine, then I will have to fail the fine DSC part of the fine test
Is that fine with you?
Good then...........ok then
Thats fine.......is it?
Fine

ooooh, I'm off!

Moose

 

[dave36]

hello this is DELTA ALPHA VICTOR ECHO you want me to do a course to learn ROMEO PAPA get real I taught ROMEO PAPA for 12 years - VICTOR HOTEL FOXTROT AND HOTEL FOXTROT I could give tuition for free! though I must be honest I know naff all about marine navigation! OOOOOOOOOVER

 

[Cornishman]

As the only certificate available for VHF these days is the new GMDSS can Dave really teach it? He cannot issue the certificate of competence which leads to the issue of an operator's licence as only a qualified instructor/ assessor can do this. Much of the course and test are done on computerised simulations. Establishments need RYA recognition to be able to do this.

 

[Moose]

So then,
If I read the RYA book on the VHF course, do you think I will be ok?

Moose

Moose

I want a boat!!!.........a nice big one that is really cheap and runs on air.

 

[dave36]

Until getting into this thread I did not even know what GMDSS was!
My point is purely that radio proceedure is about knowing how to use the radio properly and in a disciplined manner. That I can do and have taught it in the forces, organised testing, qualificationas and training updates as well as organising networks and relays for an entire division - on land and in the air - Yet some burocrat tells me I can't operate a radio on water without a certificate!

Still got to be honest though, never driven a power boat,not completed rebuilding it, soon will, but not before getting some proper instruction to make sure my family and I are as safe as we can be!

These days everything is about having the correct certificate and the means to pay to recieve it - not allways the required knowledge!
I live near Glastonbury, when festival time comes around, hundreds of locals have to produce health and safety "Stewarding Certificates" in order to work on the festival site for one week - I won't go into how these are obtained, it is legal, but none of them would know what to do if there were a crisis!

 

[poter]

No you have to take the course from an RYA recognised school.

I have just done mine in a day and it includes the Global Maritime Distress & Safety System & specifically Digital Selective Calling which is a new recommended system, and is now available as an add on to your existing VHF set or as an integral VHF/DSC set.
GMDSS also includes facilities for EPIRB and SART.

Get the Saftey at sea booklet for GMDSS guidlines for small boat users.
from the RYA or Coast Guard, it explains all the tech terms uses etc.


have fun

poter

 

[ToMo]

Its no earthly use making a fuss about it!...if you aint got one and no-one else aboards' got one either if (and when!) you get caught you will be fined and have your equipment confiscated!....so go and get the chitty like a good lad.

TôMö

 

[Mike_Martin]

Clarifications clarifications!!

You cannot add a DSC controller to a standard VHF radio set. You can only add one to a DSC compatible VHF set.

Mike

Manager,
Aeronautical & Maritime Section,
Radiocommunications Agency

 

[Cornishman]

With all that experience you must surely know that it has been long the case that to transmit on a radio you need a licence which has been awarded as the result of some examination or other. I took my amateur licence exam in 1960 in Malaya (callsign 9M2FP) even though I was a Royal Signals officer. Admittedy the rules have been relaxed a little in recent years, but it is still the case that you need an 'authority to operate' just as you always have.

 

[JohnR]

Now you weren't Shelldrake and you can't have been Acorn 'coz I was, so you were Sunray of something or other and you ran out lengths of Don 10 cable?