Dave-Shafa
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Roller Reefing Slide at top has lifted out and separated from the rest.
I was only able to shove it up using the boom.
Any ideas?
I was only able to shove it up using the boom.
Any ideas?
Roller Reefing Slide Slipped up
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VicS
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Looks like two sections of the foil have come apart.
Going to have to access the joint and refix.
Do you know how the sections are fastened together? Screws? Pop rivets? Glued?
What make/model is it? Maybe someone will know how the sections are fixed together.
Only a very small boat according to your profile! Lower mast and sort out...... no problem .
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Poignard
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Looks like a Rotostay.
If it is, the couplers are held in place with short s/s cheesehead screws (4BA, if I remember correctly).
A friend of mine had the same problem when one of the screws fell out and, rather than taking the forestay down, he took the boat alongside a high jetty and canted the boat over so that he could reach the foil, repositioned the displaced section and fit a new screw.
The screw needs some thread locking compound to stop it happening again.
I could email the Rotostay instructions if you want.
If it isn't a Rotostay, I regret to say that I am unable to assist you in this matter
If it is, the couplers are held in place with short s/s cheesehead screws (4BA, if I remember correctly).
A friend of mine had the same problem when one of the screws fell out and, rather than taking the forestay down, he took the boat alongside a high jetty and canted the boat over so that he could reach the foil, repositioned the displaced section and fit a new screw.
The screw needs some thread locking compound to stop it happening again.
I could email the Rotostay instructions if you want.
If it isn't a Rotostay, I regret to say that I am unable to assist you in this matter
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dom
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+1 If the parting is out of reach just get a climbing harness: put it on; attach the lifting-eye via a sturdy strop to the forestay (i.e. you are now attached to the forestay); attach a jib/spi halyard to the harness and get someone to winch you up to the appropriate level.
Finally, you may have a couple of joins, so you might as well get pulled up to the top of the forestay and check/tighten the lot. If the problem recurs you can always put a drop of Loctite blue on the screws. Mine are cap head allen key hex screws; but they'll be bog standard items whatever they are.
VicS
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I' m not so sure about being pulled up the mast on such a small boat.
dom
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Just read the OP's bio ...oops neither am I sure! Disregard my comments for boats much below about 25'
Dave-Shafa
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OK Thanks - I may remove the RR - have a RED jib with hanks and 2 jibs for RR but may get hanks for them.
dom
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If your only problem is what's shown in the picture it won't take you more than a couple of screws and a few minutes to fix. Just drop the mast or pull boat up beside a pier of a suitable height. My messier harness process only applies to larger boats, which as VicS so politely put it -- should be ignored!
srm
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If, as suggested above, you can work with the mast up alongside a pier or whatever the following suggestion will give you slack on the forestay if needed. Ease off the backstay(s), set up a halyard from masthead to stemhead and tighten. This will pull the mast head forward. You may also have to ease off the aft lower shrouds to avoid putting too much of a bend in the mast. Depends how much slack you need. Just make the adjustments a few centimetres at a time to keep the mast from flopping about.
With the forestay slack letting it go at the stem may help to bring the joint into reach. The halyard and backstay will support the mast.
As with most boat repair jobs there will be an element of 'making it up as you go along'.
Removing the RR gear will probably involve cutting the bottom terminal off the forestay to get the foil sections off. In which case you will probably need a new forestay to use your hank on sails. Depends on the model you have, but this would be the case on the four different ones I have worked on.
With the forestay slack letting it go at the stem may help to bring the joint into reach. The halyard and backstay will support the mast.
As with most boat repair jobs there will be an element of 'making it up as you go along'.
Removing the RR gear will probably involve cutting the bottom terminal off the forestay to get the foil sections off. In which case you will probably need a new forestay to use your hank on sails. Depends on the model you have, but this would be the case on the four different ones I have worked on.
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maby
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Surely not? Most I've seen use some sort of technique to allow them to be fitted to an existing forestay - none that I'm aware of require the forestay to be built around them. Some, like Plastimo, could actually be installed with the mast up and forestay attached.
paul-essex
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if it is one that can be fitted to a existing forestay it could be taken / slid down re tightened and slid back up 
Poignard
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There are some, like my ancient Rotostay for instance, where it has to have a special forestay made.
srm
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That's one that I was thinking of, had to cut through the swage.
Others have had a Norsman or Sta-lock type terminals built into the bottom drum. The terminals needed to be removed, which involved cutting the splayed wire and cone off, thus shortening the forestay.
The Furlex had instructions for dismantling, but the clips did not unclip and after trying everything else we finished up using a hacksaw. Managed to save the drum and swivels. My experience has been in removing RR gear to replace it, by which stage it was well crudded up inside.
My point is that may well be easier for the OP to repair in situ. Unless, as has been said, its a Plastimo or similar that can be slid off over the terminal.
Dave-Shafa
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Thanks gang - I will sort it now.
VicS
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It looks pretty similar to mine.
Aluminium foil sections pop riveted onto a joining piece inserted into the ends of them
I would take the mast down without hesitation.
i think you will then be able to refit the parts together properly and if they are just pop rivets ( aluminium ones which have corroded away ) you will be able to pop rivet it back together again without removing it from the forestay although I'd probably remove the whole shooting match from the mast so as to lay down it straight.
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