Cornishman
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That's odd. Troon being a couple of miles south of Camborne and about as far away from the sea as you can get in that part of Cornwall how come you've got a Lifeboat?
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Trying to figure out what all you lot above are actually wanting, Yes, there is no excuse for behaving like a prat on the roads or anywhere else, where it is likely to cause a danger to someone..........however, I would suggest that if it was you that was clinging to the wreckage of your boat in freezing water, you would be wanting our assistance as quickly as possible??.....so what are you wanting?
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thats the problem...more often than not in my RNLI career it hardly ever was a do or die job!!.....probably 90% of the time it was an AA job and tow me home with no lives in danger!!....there indeed has to be a balance set between putting lives at risk on the way to a job against the lives that are at risk indeed on that particular job!!
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Well you know, when the pager goes off, they don't know what it is they are being called on to do, (mostly). So it is beholden on them to respond as quickly as possible.
Now then, it is all very easy to sit behind an anonymous keyboard wittering away about all and everything that doesn't suit you, it seems to be what a lot of you on here do best, but as someone else has said, Steve?......if you have real concerns about a specific incident, then RNLI want to know about it.
However, I suspect that as with a lot of posts on these forums, it's mostly just piss and vinegar, spouted by a bunch of keyboard sailors, that haven't got anything better to do.
I'll tell ya what though, if any of you feel that you can well do without the services of the RNLI, and it's Pratish Crews, just PM me your name and your boats name, I will make sure that it is circulated around all CG and Lifeboat Stations.
To be honest, I think that some on these forums should be bloody ashamed of themselves. The lads and lasses of the RNLI, put their lives on the line on a regular basis for the likes of you!........makes me wonder why they bother.
Before you all rush to gob off, perhaps you should give a thought the crews of the likes of the Solomon Browne, because I tell you what, I don't think one of you is worth the lives of people like that!
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Trying to figure out what all you lot above are actually wanting, Yes, there is no excuse for behaving like a prat on the roads or anywhere else, where it is likely to cause a danger to someone..........however, I would suggest that if it was you that was clinging to the wreckage of your boat in freezing water, you would be wanting our assistance as quickly as possible??.....so what are you wanting?
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thats the problem...more often than not in my RNLI career it hardly ever was a do or die job!!.....probably 90% of the time it was an AA job and tow me home with no lives in danger!!....there indeed has to be a balance set between putting lives at risk on the way to a job against the lives that are at risk indeed on that particular job!!
Paul.
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Well you know, when the pager goes off, they don't know what it is they are being called on to do, (mostly). So it is beholden on them to respond as quickly as possible.
Now then, it is all very easy to sit behind an anonymous keyboard wittering away about all and everything that doesn't suit you, it seems to be what a lot of you on here do best, but as someone else has said, Steve?......if you have real concerns about a specific incident, then RNLI want to know about it.
However, I suspect that as with a lot of posts on these forums, it's mostly just piss and vinegar, spouted by a bunch of keyboard sailors, that haven't got anything better to do.
I'll tell ya what though, if any of you feel that you can well do without the services of the RNLI, and it's Pratish Crews, just PM me your name and your boats name, I will make sure that it is circulated around all CG and Lifeboat Stations.
To be honest, I think that some on these forums should be bloody ashamed of themselves. The lads and lasses of the RNLI, put their lives on the line on a regular basis for the likes of you!........makes me wonder why they bother.
Before you all rush to gob off, perhaps you should give a thought the crews of the likes of the Solomon Browne, because I tell you what, I don't think one of you is worth the lives of people like that!
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starboard
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That's odd. Troon being a couple of miles south of Camborne and about as far away from the sea as you can get in that part of Cornwall how come you've got a Lifeboat?
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Troon, Ayrshire, Scotland !!!!!!
That's odd. Troon being a couple of miles south of Camborne and about as far away from the sea as you can get in that part of Cornwall how come you've got a Lifeboat?
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Troon, Ayrshire, Scotland !!!!!!
Twister_Ken
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Ah, the true voice of sweet reason, prepared to kill road users to rescue a stranded dog.
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Now then, it is all very easy to sit behind an anonymous keyboard wittering away about all and everything that doesn't suit you, it seems to be what a lot of you on here do best, but as someone else has said, Steve?......if you have real concerns about a specific incident, then RNLI want to know about it.
However, I suspect that as with a lot of posts on these forums, it's mostly just piss and vinegar, spouted by a bunch of keyboard sailors, that haven't got anything better to do.
I'll tell ya what though, if any of you feel that you can well do without the services of the RNLI, and it's Pratish Crews, just PM me your name and your boats name, I will make sure that it is circulated around all CG and Lifeboat Stations.
Before you all rush to gob off, perhaps you should give a thought the crews of the likes of the Solomon Browne, because I tell you what, I don't think one of you is worth the lives of people like that!
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A little over the top I think and with more than 1500 posts I can only assume you are behind a keyboard,hopefully not the RNLI's
Now then, it is all very easy to sit behind an anonymous keyboard wittering away about all and everything that doesn't suit you, it seems to be what a lot of you on here do best, but as someone else has said, Steve?......if you have real concerns about a specific incident, then RNLI want to know about it.
However, I suspect that as with a lot of posts on these forums, it's mostly just piss and vinegar, spouted by a bunch of keyboard sailors, that haven't got anything better to do.
I'll tell ya what though, if any of you feel that you can well do without the services of the RNLI, and it's Pratish Crews, just PM me your name and your boats name, I will make sure that it is circulated around all CG and Lifeboat Stations.
Before you all rush to gob off, perhaps you should give a thought the crews of the likes of the Solomon Browne, because I tell you what, I don't think one of you is worth the lives of people like that!
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A little over the top I think and with more than 1500 posts I can only assume you are behind a keyboard,hopefully not the RNLI's
alldownwind
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........Well you know, when the pager goes off, they don't know what it is they are being called on to do, (mostly). So it is beholden on them to respond as quickly as possible. ...........
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Yes Smiffy, as quickly as possible within the constraints of the Road Traffic Act.
As has already been said, a complaint to the RNLI is the most constructive thing to do - and if it's a local crew member, a call to the local Ops Manager (ex Lifeboat Secretary) will work wonders.
And it won't detract in the slightest from what the RNLI boys and girls do for seafarers or keyboard operators.
........Well you know, when the pager goes off, they don't know what it is they are being called on to do, (mostly). So it is beholden on them to respond as quickly as possible. ...........
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Yes Smiffy, as quickly as possible within the constraints of the Road Traffic Act.
As has already been said, a complaint to the RNLI is the most constructive thing to do - and if it's a local crew member, a call to the local Ops Manager (ex Lifeboat Secretary) will work wonders.
And it won't detract in the slightest from what the RNLI boys and girls do for seafarers or keyboard operators.
Vara
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Extraordinary post, add a smiley and I'd think it was a piss take.
I suspect it's not.
Apart from the bad PR the main reason not to do silly things on the way to a shout is that if an incident occurs then the emergency you are being called too is deprived of your input.
Somebody elsewhere quoted "drive to arrive" which is a pretty good motto.
I suspect it's not.
Apart from the bad PR the main reason not to do silly things on the way to a shout is that if an incident occurs then the emergency you are being called too is deprived of your input.
Somebody elsewhere quoted "drive to arrive" which is a pretty good motto.
pessimist
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Are you a troll, pissed or just forgotten your medication? You are not helping the cause of the coastguard or th RNLI with your ill advised rantings.
Just a keyboard sailor spewing piss and vinegar. (Have filled in my bio though).
Just a keyboard sailor spewing piss and vinegar. (Have filled in my bio though).
savageseadog
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Frankly I think the speed has more to do with competition to get in on the launch than saving life. The few seconds or possible minute or two saved is of no consequence. The situation that I've observed with driving at Holyhead is positively dangerous. The only reason I've never complained is that I didn't want to make waves /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif, I spoke to a few people unofficially and hoped that would do. I can assure anyone who feels able pass comment on my seamanship or expertise is that I am no armchair sailor. I've been escorted into harbour by the RNLI after breaking a mast which wasn't strictly necessary but welcome anyway. I would hate to think lives were put at risk on account of the 90% of call outs that were not really necessary.
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Extraordinary post, add a smiley and I'd think it was a piss take.
I suspect it's not.
Apart from the bad PR the main reason not to do silly things on the way to a shout is that if an incident occurs then the emergency you are being called too is deprived of your input.
Somebody elsewhere quoted "drive to arrive" which is a pretty good motto.
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Why don't you numpties read posts properly and answer what is written there?? I already said it's not acceptable for people to endanger others on the road, or anywhere else!
Like I said, most of you lot are a bunch or paper and keyboard sailors, more adept at pontificating in these forums, and propping up the yacht club bar. How the hell any of you have got the gall to criticise the RNLI, in the way that you have is beyond me!............Mind you, it aint likely that you will ever need 'em, seeing as how most of you never seem to get out of the truckin' marinas that you all love so much.
I also said that an awful lot of you are just full of piss and vinegar, and judging from the responses to my post that seems to be born out.
Lets see if you can read and comprehend this post, somehow, I doubt you will, I think I'm talking to the cerebrally challenged!
Extraordinary post, add a smiley and I'd think it was a piss take.
I suspect it's not.
Apart from the bad PR the main reason not to do silly things on the way to a shout is that if an incident occurs then the emergency you are being called too is deprived of your input.
Somebody elsewhere quoted "drive to arrive" which is a pretty good motto.
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Why don't you numpties read posts properly and answer what is written there?? I already said it's not acceptable for people to endanger others on the road, or anywhere else!
Like I said, most of you lot are a bunch or paper and keyboard sailors, more adept at pontificating in these forums, and propping up the yacht club bar. How the hell any of you have got the gall to criticise the RNLI, in the way that you have is beyond me!............Mind you, it aint likely that you will ever need 'em, seeing as how most of you never seem to get out of the truckin' marinas that you all love so much.
I also said that an awful lot of you are just full of piss and vinegar, and judging from the responses to my post that seems to be born out.
Lets see if you can read and comprehend this post, somehow, I doubt you will, I think I'm talking to the cerebrally challenged!
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No thats unnecessarily inoffensive.
I don't agree with what you are saying or the manner in which you express it
I don't agree with what you are saying or the manner in which you express it
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Like I said, most of you lot are a bunch or paper and keyboard sailors, more adept at pontificating in these forums, and propping up the yacht club bar.
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In order to suffer the privilege of being used as target practice by an angry RNLI car driver I first had to singlehand 120 miles from Brittany to reach Fowey. After recovering from my RNLI close encounter I singlehanded another 25 hours non stop up to Portsmouth.
Thanks for the yacht club reminder its about time I joined one.
So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
Like I said, most of you lot are a bunch or paper and keyboard sailors, more adept at pontificating in these forums, and propping up the yacht club bar.
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In order to suffer the privilege of being used as target practice by an angry RNLI car driver I first had to singlehand 120 miles from Brittany to reach Fowey. After recovering from my RNLI close encounter I singlehanded another 25 hours non stop up to Portsmouth.
Thanks for the yacht club reminder its about time I joined one.
So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Ive just placed smiffy on ignore, maybe if we all move along the air will clear... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
odviously an angry man!
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odviously an angry man!
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Oh no, I think your first reply was more accurate, however I suppose that your second is more appropriate!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Now that's something I'd pay good money to see! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Now that's something I'd pay good money to see! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
You really don't have a clue. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Oh just a bit more sonny, just a bit..............but see, you only answered what you wanted to answer, not what I said in the post. I already agreed with you that it is unacceptable for someone to put people at risk on the roads or anywhere else.
I am sure you will go down well in whatever Yot Club you endevour to join, you seem just the type.
Now I don't give a rats arse, if you put me on ignore as well, but I think that you people should just sit back and have a think about what you are going to spout on about, some people such as meself for instance, might take offence, and why would you want to do that eh?
See, I don't mind if you say, hey! I saw Fred Bloggs or whoever behaving in an inappropriate manner, do you think I should report it, my answer would be a resounding yes! As Steve Cronin already said, the RNLI need to protect their hardwon reputation, and very often, things can be nipped in the bud in a timely and mostly painless way, job done.
Trouble is, a lot on here are not content with that, they all have to jump on the bandwagon and in doing so make all kinds of statements, that really perhaps they shouldn't.
There was a long and heated thread in these forums back along knocking the RNLI, because some twerp reckoned he knew that one or two of "The Management" had travelled first class on the train to somewhere or other??? Well so bleedin' what!!??
The RNLI, just like any other organisation, is run and manned by human beings, and nobody is perfect. So I ask you people, are you all so perfect in your daily lives that you can afford to be so free with your criticisms?
I gather that some of you think my responses have been a bit strong, well, that's life, if you offend people, or things that are close to people , you best be prepared for them to get stroppy about it.
So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Oh just a bit more sonny, just a bit..............but see, you only answered what you wanted to answer, not what I said in the post. I already agreed with you that it is unacceptable for someone to put people at risk on the roads or anywhere else.
I am sure you will go down well in whatever Yot Club you endevour to join, you seem just the type.
Now I don't give a rats arse, if you put me on ignore as well, but I think that you people should just sit back and have a think about what you are going to spout on about, some people such as meself for instance, might take offence, and why would you want to do that eh?
See, I don't mind if you say, hey! I saw Fred Bloggs or whoever behaving in an inappropriate manner, do you think I should report it, my answer would be a resounding yes! As Steve Cronin already said, the RNLI need to protect their hardwon reputation, and very often, things can be nipped in the bud in a timely and mostly painless way, job done.
Trouble is, a lot on here are not content with that, they all have to jump on the bandwagon and in doing so make all kinds of statements, that really perhaps they shouldn't.
There was a long and heated thread in these forums back along knocking the RNLI, because some twerp reckoned he knew that one or two of "The Management" had travelled first class on the train to somewhere or other??? Well so bleedin' what!!??
The RNLI, just like any other organisation, is run and manned by human beings, and nobody is perfect. So I ask you people, are you all so perfect in your daily lives that you can afford to be so free with your criticisms?
I gather that some of you think my responses have been a bit strong, well, that's life, if you offend people, or things that are close to people , you best be prepared for them to get stroppy about it.
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So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Now that's something I'd pay good money to see! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
You really don't have a clue. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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You can shut up an'll KP! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I aint mincing about in one of them silly helmets, no matter how much money you pays...................................
How much would you pay? Just out of interest like? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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So tell us about your sea going credentials, does it amount to more than donning an RNLI helmet and strutting along a mid summer beach to impress the local talent?
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Now that's something I'd pay good money to see! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
You really don't have a clue. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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You can shut up an'll KP! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I aint mincing about in one of them silly helmets, no matter how much money you pays...................................
How much would you pay? Just out of interest like? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Superflid
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It'd have to be a donation to the charity of your choice! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Thanks for the long reply.
The comment about 1st class travel is interesting. Yes it is not important whether the top brass of a multi ££ organization like RNLI travel first class but a charity does need to watch its public face.
I once did some IT work for a charity that had just won a £50 million National Lottery award. I complained that my job was difficult because the Head Office was run on hand-me-down PCs but years later I can see the top man had put in place an ethos that said if the public give us money we’ll spend it on what they expect.
I spent a few years contracting at NatWest. Likewise NatWest has an historic culture against being seen to be flash, top managers came to work in budget M&S suits. The NatWest culture said "if we are going to ask people to deposit money with us, let’s not be seen to be revelling in that money".
The problem with the RNLI is that some think it is becoming a flash organization that plays Health & Safety politics with fallacious rescue statistics. This single issue is the root of any YBW RNLI complaints I make, I am quite capable of jumping out the way of an RNLI crew member on an adrenaline rush.
Also I am only mildly miffed that one day the RNLI nominated my yacht to play the role of Kaiserliche Marine on the afternoon that the Poole fleet emerged line astern to re-enact the Battle of Jutland. Next time could they cross the T somewhere else please.
The comment about 1st class travel is interesting. Yes it is not important whether the top brass of a multi ££ organization like RNLI travel first class but a charity does need to watch its public face.
I once did some IT work for a charity that had just won a £50 million National Lottery award. I complained that my job was difficult because the Head Office was run on hand-me-down PCs but years later I can see the top man had put in place an ethos that said if the public give us money we’ll spend it on what they expect.
I spent a few years contracting at NatWest. Likewise NatWest has an historic culture against being seen to be flash, top managers came to work in budget M&S suits. The NatWest culture said "if we are going to ask people to deposit money with us, let’s not be seen to be revelling in that money".
The problem with the RNLI is that some think it is becoming a flash organization that plays Health & Safety politics with fallacious rescue statistics. This single issue is the root of any YBW RNLI complaints I make, I am quite capable of jumping out the way of an RNLI crew member on an adrenaline rush.
Also I am only mildly miffed that one day the RNLI nominated my yacht to play the role of Kaiserliche Marine on the afternoon that the Poole fleet emerged line astern to re-enact the Battle of Jutland. Next time could they cross the T somewhere else please.