RNLI taxi service for illegal immigrants

[jonjo42]

...and I'll bet they won't, it's better publicity than "a free towing service for the mechanically challenged middle classes"

This is easy to challenge.

The RNLI has thrived for decades allowing "free towing service for the mechanically challenged middle classes" to become one of its primary functions. The public clearly vote for such an RNLI with their wallets.

Conversely immigration is the singe most decisive political issue in the UK at present. Promoting itself as a participant in the people-trafficking delivery chain can only do the RNLI harm by definition because it alienates half the British public.

 

[awol]

they're actually economic migrants who come well-equipped with fake papers, smartphones, money, etc.

Sounds like they'll mix right in with the Brexit vote riggers, Russian oligarchs, Tory party spivs and the rest of the establishment.

 

[elton]

I'll take people who would like to help those escaping from unimaginable situations over those who think they should be left to drown.

The vast majority of the current lot of asylum seekers, are grown men, running away, and mostly leaving behind their women, children, and their elderly and infirm. If they had a jot of manhood in them, they'd physically fight to retain what they have, and defend their families. But they're not. They are good-for-nothing cowards and weaklings.

 

[JumbleDuck]

The vast majority of the current lot of asylum seekers, are grown men, running away, and mostly leaving behind their women, children, and their elderly and infirm.

I thought your claim was that they weren't asylum seekers at all, but economic migrants? In which case it makes most sense for the youngest, fittest and most likely to find work to make the trek. If you now recognize that asylum seekers are genuine, you should probably remember that it is, again, young fit and economically active members of persecuted groups who are most often killed.

 

[Daydream believer]

The added advantage is that with time they will help to dilute generations of English in-breeding.....

You must be joking.There is more to England than the isle of White & Norfolk you know !!!!

 

[JumbleDuck]

I'm sorry I omitted the quotation marks around "asylum seekers". They deserve to be killed if they're not prepared to defend themselves and their families. Because they're cowards.

Still doesn't make sense. You claim that they aren't really in danger but that they should be defending their families.

Still, at least we're getting vaguely back on-topic. Here's a picture of hundreds of young men running away instead of fighting. Leisure sailors were involved in that too.

 

[JumbleDuck]

 

[jordanbasset]

I'm sorry I omitted the quotation marks around "asylum seekers". They deserve to be killed if they're not prepared to defend themselves and their families. Because they're cowards.

You seem to be advocating, or at least supporting, the murder of people

 

[Blue Sunray]

You seem to be advocating, or at least supporting, the murder of people

I don't expect he's ever come anywhere near killing anyone himself though. (If you exclude almost doing for himself due to his own incompetence on the water.)

 

[elton]

Still doesn't make sense. You claim that they aren't really in danger but that they should be defending their families.

Still, at least we're getting vaguely back on-topic. Here's a picture of hundreds of young men running away instead of fighting. Leisure sailors were involved in that too.

As I'm sure you're well aware, that was a strategic retreat, and they returned after regrouping and rearming, to annihilate the enemy. Which is precisely what the retreating middle eastern freeloaders will not be doing.

 

[[70521]]

This story is making my blood boil https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-46679414

And I bet they're going to lose a lot of public support because of it. These illegal immigrants are already in a country of safe refuge, then they put to sea without so much as a lifejacket, and the RNLI selflessly leave their Christmas dinners, and their families, to risk their own lives :disgust:

Utter tosh.

Conditions were pretty benign in la Manche over the last few days. Would you prefer pictures of bodies being washed up on the beach and the global media going to town on that?

We had several Boxing Day Swims in Devon yesterday, lots of people entering the water without a lifejacket, the local RNLI were more than happy to turn out for the event (and bring the media along to film it).

 

[NormanS]

Utter tosh.

Conditions were pretty benign in la Manche over the last few days. Would you prefer pictures of bodies being washed up on the beach and the global media going to town on that?

If conditions were benign, as I believe they have been, why did these people have to be "rescued"? I think it is very unfortunate that the RNLI are being tasked to intercept and bring these people ashore. The duty should lie with the Border Agency, and if they can't do it themselves, with their handful of boats, they should employ professional contractors. The money that I give to the RNLI is for the purpose of helping people in danger on the water, not for carrying out Government Agency work.

 

[jonjo42]

Utter tosh.

Conditions were pretty benign in la Manche over the last few days. Would you prefer pictures of bodies being washed up on the beach and the global media going to town on that?

So indignant and self righteous is the Liberal mind you cannot see the absurd self contradiction in your own post!

 

[chrishscorp]

The duty should lie with the Border Agency, and if they can't do it themselves, with their handful of boats, they should employ professional contractors. The money that I give to the RNLI is for the purpose of helping people in danger on the water, not for carrying out Government Agency work.

+1

We have had a govt minister who didnt realise we were an island state so its not surprising we only have half a dozen patrol boats for our entire coastline

 

[Poecheng]

Still doesn't make sense. You claim that they aren't really in danger but that they should be defending their families.

Still, at least we're getting vaguely back on-topic. Here's a picture of hundreds of young men running away instead of fighting. Leisure sailors were involved in that too.

What a disgrace you are sometimes.
You vacilate between the reasonable and utterly disgraceful.
The commentary and the comparison you make with the above post is beyond odious

 

[Deleted member 36384]

If conditions were benign, as I believe they have been, why did these people have to be "rescued"? I think it is very unfortunate that the RNLI are being tasked to intercept and bring these people ashore. The duty should lie with the Border Agency, and if they can't do it themselves, with their handful of boats, they should employ professional contractors. The money that I give to the RNLI is for the purpose of helping people in danger on the water, not for carrying out Government Agency work.

I agree that the Border Force should be managing this and not the RNLI but if life is at risk then the RNLI is the primary UK maritime resource/organisation to be doing the rescue.

The problem with Border Force is that we have insufficient numbers of patrol vessel for an Island our size. The article, from June 2017, lists the UK with 3 vessels when some other EU coastal states have hundreds. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-border-force-fleet-size-worryingly-low/

Apparently the Maritime Gendarmerie in France have around 30 vessels to patrol their coast line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Gendarmerie