RNLI donations

Just to elbow in....next Saturday I and two friends will be having fun sailing round and round Rutland Water in his Beneteau all night to raise funds for said RNLI. Last year..apart from light breezes we had a couple of serious downpours and a thunderstorm which included ball lightning for that firework display effect, so it was anything but dull.

As a fleet we raised £6000 towards a new lifeboat for the IOM, though my own monetary input was quite modest. My colleagues are tight and prefer drink and betting.

I'm sure the RNLI debates who they should and should not launch for weekly, but I shall just plod on and give them a little support as and when I can.

Wish us luck.

Tim
 
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You're logic is flawed, the cost of each launch is calculated by the cost of having the whole service at the ready.



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OK. So - the more rolls of carpet being recovered the better then, eh? That reduces the average cost per launch on your logic.
 
I wonder how many rolls of carpet are dumped at sea. I remember when we were trawling about 100 miles off Norwegian coast when we had a complete tractor wheel in the net. Bit OT but I have always wondered how it got there.
 
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I wonder how many rolls of carpet are dumped at sea. I remember when we were trawling about 100 miles off Norwegian coast when we had a complete tractor wheel in the net. Bit OT but I have always wondered how it got there.

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Obviously an RNLI Governor was responsible. Offshore Members appear to restrict themselves to mere rolls of carpet apparently. Or something like that.
 
Somethings money cant buy!!!

RNLI is priceless, and if you call you should be gratefull that their first question is not 'who is your insureer'.

As with many things in the UK you dont miss it till you go afar and see what the rest of the world does'nt have at any cost.
 
Well done Tim that's the spirit and it's all we can do.

Let's hope the employers who let their employees take time off for what they believe is going to be savings lives don't become disillusioned with being told it's another dinghy or yacht that wasn't tied up properly they have rescued.
 
You WERE involved in this mortgage, mortgaging, remortgaging weren't you.

Do you understand the word exponential?

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Good, because I don't and I know you just looked it up.




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Which is why we mustn't allow it to be abused, fall into disrepute and become a Government department like the RYA is going to.

PS you are wrong, life is not wasted on the youth some of them have a wonderful time, the rest would if they were given the opportunities.
 
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RNLI is priceless, and if you call you should be gratefull that their first question is not 'who is your insureer'.


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Fully agree with that.Can you imagine an RNLI run by the government?

When the chips are down they will do everything humanly possible to rescue you.When the pager goes they dont know whats in store,just that someone is in need of help.
 
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In the good old days doesn't do much really.
Youngsters can be taught to be a coxswain in a couple of months or so.


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Bull5h1t.

I consider myself to be an fair to middling boat handler.

I've seen Fishermen in RNLI vessels perform feats that there's no way you can learn in 2 months. It takes a lifetime. Starting at 5 when you go out with your dad.

We're talking about the difference between me on an off-road motorcycle and someone on "Junior Kickstart" seeemingly leaping 200kgs of motorcycle 3 feet into the air onto a crate.

Stuff a 'normal' rider (sailor) like me couldn't even imagine and would leave a physics professor scratching his head.

It's not by chance that in WW2 minesweepers were operated by fishermen.

There is no substitute for talent plus a lifetime of doing it.

Ps: As a yachtsman, despite all the nice things I've said in this post. Fishermen, you're all still ****s.
 
The ongoing industrial dispute of the coast guard staff tells a different story. As did the deployment of the army and their "Green Goddesses" a few years back.

Of course Mr Brown may not want to increase income taxes to fund a new HMG RNLI so he could just levy a new boat owners tax to cover it.Not a pleasant thought at all.
 
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(cut) Of course Mr Brown may not want to increase income taxes to fund a new HMG RNLI so he could just levy a new boat owners tax to cover it.Not a pleasant thought at all.

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They could alternatively charge the "rescued" a £1000 fee for the service. I would be happy to pay if my life HAD been saved. Might be a bit pee'd off if I had been rescued against my will as happened recently. It would certainly discourage the "I didn't want to scratch my anti-foul" brigade, or the 10 people airlifted to safety from a Cabin Cruiser on the Lavan Sands on May Day (2 stayed aboard to float it off & go home).

RNLI is NOT the same as a free Seastart service, nor is it the RAC/AA for yotties.
 
"It's not by chance that in WW2 minesweepers were operated by fishermen".

I think they were operated by fishermen, because it was their fishing vessels that they used, and fishermen were expendable. You just take the nets off and drag the cable along just like trawling in order to cut the cables. Then, you just shoot at it with a rifle when it pops up hopefully behind you. Being wood and shallow draft, fishing boats were ideal.

J.Marrs stern trawlers were used in the Falklands. And many of their crews are/were Royal Navy Reserve. These were steel trawlers and needed degausing.

I don't think the Navy would entrust their moderm MCMV to fishermen to go looking for Accoustic Ship Signature mines somehow. They'd probably trawl up the SOSUS network.

Nonetheless: It is wonderful to hear such glowing praise for fishermen from Windfinder. Even if we are *****s Long retired ******s in my case. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
You should bring yourself up to date - youngsters are incredibly versatile and adaptable.

In the bad old days it was all this OOHHAARR two years before the mast, now it's technology and grit - i.e. youngsters having a laugh look at them on snowboards, skis, skateboards, mountain bikes, surf-boards, fast yachts (see post few above) every thing else the mad little devils learn in a short period. There's nothing they won't do and good on them.

Crew aren't rowing out ther any more, it's a high-tech, self-righting boat. I asked my youngest and a couple of friends some time ago what he thought about not going out in rough weather to practice due to safety issues - his reply - clip on and let's go as most youngsters would.

Coxswains - Frankie George - practice - the hull of an Aran class completely out of the water on the back of a wave. It's not required but it did sort the men out from the boys.

Have some faith and lose the oohhaarr - it's boring
 
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You should bring yourself up to date - youngsters are incredibly versatile and adaptable.

In the bad old days it was all this OOHHAARR two years before the mast, now it's technology and grit - i.e. youngsters having a laugh look at them on snowboards, skis, skateboards, mountain bikes, surf-boards, fast yachts (see post few above) every thing else the mad little devils learn in a short period. There's nothing they won't do and good on them.

Crew aren't rowing out ther any more, it's a high-tech, self-righting boat. I asked my youngest and a couple of friends some time ago what he thought about not going out in rough weather to practice due to safety issues - his reply - clip on and let's go as most youngsters would.

Coxswains - Frankie George - practice - the hull of an Aran class completely out of the water on the back of a wave. It's not required but it did sort the men out from the boys.

Have some faith and lose the oohhaarr - it's boring

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I didn't say youngster would be poor crew - quite the opposite. Nor did I say people who don't work on the sea couldn't make good lifeboat crew.

None the less I refuse to believe that someone who works in an office after two months (I presume part time) training becomes as good as people who work on the sea day in day out in all weathers.
 
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