JumbleDuck
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Donating the membership fee would save the RNLI the cost of sending out magazine, badges and so on.
RNLI 2013 accounts : highlights
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Donating the membership fee would save the RNLI the cost of sending out magazine, badges and so on.
Sybarite
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In my OP I only quoted figures without comment. I was accused of sniping. I asked where? You started talking about the finances of the Catholic Church.
You still, as ever, have a problem of comprehension and do not read what is written.
If I feel criticism is due I will make it. Your brainless interventions will not stop me.
jordanbasset
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For those that are interested full accounts are here
http://rnli.org/aboutus/aboutthernli/Documents/annual-report-13.pdf
Interesting £11.8m was spent on lifeboats but a total of £48m was spent on the infrastructure, buildings, launching facilities, lifeboats, computers etc, to facilitate the life boat operation, lifeboats are of no use if you do not have the infrastructure to use them
http://rnli.org/aboutus/aboutthernli/Documents/annual-report-13.pdf
Interesting £11.8m was spent on lifeboats but a total of £48m was spent on the infrastructure, buildings, launching facilities, lifeboats, computers etc, to facilitate the life boat operation, lifeboats are of no use if you do not have the infrastructure to use them
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Rigger Mortice
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Pretending that by posting the figures without comment was not sniping is just dishonesty on your behalf. You were posting the figures with critical intent. You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it.
I pretend to nothing whatsoever and giving the information about the church served two purposes. Firstly it highlighted that there are far, far greater problems with money being hidden away by the church than is being spent unwisely by the RNLI (which, unlike the church, is also open to scrutiny). Secondly it points out the hypocrisy in your stance.
As for not reading what was written. I did both that AND I read what was not written.......namely your sniping about the RNLI. Your subsequent comments have confirmed that I was totally accurate in my reading.
I too will criticise when I feel it is due. On this occasion I am criticising your sniping, your dishonesty in pretending that you were not sniping, and your hypocrisy.
Sybarite
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So you are admitting that there was something amiss in the figures that I was quoting - which you interpret as sniping. Rather shooting yourself in the foot aren't you?
Rigger Mortice
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No. To be frank I haven't even bothered to look at your figures in detail. I know full well that you have just put them up to snipe at the RNLI. If I want to look at RNLI information I will go to the source not another bit of your selective cut n' paste. TBH I gave up bothering with the detail of your posts long ago. They never contain anything new or original. Even this one is simply a repeat of exactly the same point you have made several times before. You don't like the RNLI business model.
You're like a little child that does something to get his sibling into trouble then stands back and plays all innocent......"Who me? I didn't do anything". Your sniping is too obvious. Perhaps you should try a more subtle approach?
trapezeartist
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An excellent point. The RNLI is about to adopt the independent Portishead lifeboat. In order to do so they are building a boathouse, making alterations to the seawall and building a launching slip that must accommodate a tidal range of 14.7m. I wouldn't presume to put numbers on it, but clearly the cost of the infrastructure far exceeds the cost of an inshore lifeboat.
No-one is above inspection or criticism, and not everything the RNLI does meets with my 100% approval. Most of it does though, I am pleased to support the lifeboat service financially and in other ways, and yes, the RNLI is something that our nation can be truly proud of.
Searush
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Sybarite, you are simply becoming a bore on this topic, as well as wrong & irrelevant.
Most of us who live in the UK & who donate to the RNLI are happy with the way they operate. In fact I am more than happy, I am delighted, to have such a well funded & organised outfit ready & available should I ever need them.
However I shall continue to do my best not to call upon their services.
Most of us who live in the UK & who donate to the RNLI are happy with the way they operate. In fact I am more than happy, I am delighted, to have such a well funded & organised outfit ready & available should I ever need them.
However I shall continue to do my best not to call upon their services.
Searush
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So you expect people who manage a charity to get low pay compared to their counterparts in government or industry? This in addition to the workers volunteering for nothing? And how do you expect the RNLI with its focus on inshore (within 100 miles or so) rescue to be able to suddenly up their range to a few thousand miles???
Please think a little before posting in future.
JumbleDuck
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To be fair, seamen as skilled as lifeboat crews aren't expect to work for nothing in the merchant navy.
Searush
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Quite, thanks for agreeing with me. The RNLI ASK for volunteers & get them, if only for the occasional part-time role of crew. If no-one wanted to volunteer they would no doubt pay them, but a volunteer is always worth 2 pressed men.
AFAIK it is only the current govt that forces people to work for no wages as part of their workhouse, sorry workfare, programme. But that is deliberately designed to drive down labour rates, subsidise participating businesses & provide excuses to remove people from benefits & the unemployed statistics.
JumbleDuck
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Have they tried asking for volunteer managers?
Searush
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Probably not, it's usually a full time job. Did you miss that bit of the post, volunteer jobs are usually part-time ones?
Sybarite
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In France the managers are volunteers.
Rigger Mortice
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I understand what you are saying but that isn't quite so true these days. With the dramatic reduction in the national fishing fleet the RNLI now recruits many crew members from outside the marine industry. Nowadays they are more likely to be car mechanics or estate agents than sea hardened fishermen. That's one reason for the Institute having to spend more on training these days than it did in the passed.
I imagine that volunteers do it not only because they want to do their bit, but also for the camaraderie, the fun of playing with the boats, the training and a bit of status locally because people in sea going communities hold the lifeboat crews in high regard. And nothing wrong with any of that. Nothing wrong at all.
Sybarite
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Please let me know where I am wrong. (Irrelevance being a matter of opinion.) After all, I only quoted figures from the RNLI annual accounts.
Sybarite
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Daydream believer
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I have been following this thread & i do not normally make personal comments about forumites
However, in this instance I have to suggest that you really must be an offensive little oik !!!!
Daydream believer
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If the accident had been within range do you not think that the RNLI would have been there --& not just given up after 2 days
As for salaries - How much do you expect people to be paid for managing & growing an account circa £ 600 milion
sailorman
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the account should not be growing by £49m a year thats why the charities commission leant on them.