Rival 38 in La Linea

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Some of you will recall me teeling the awful story about my neighbour here in La Linea being found dead in the water near his boat. Well, his daughter has it up for sale now. Its a Rival 38, the teak trimmings dont look too good but basically the donk, hull and sails bits look ok. Going cheap and I suspect open to offers.
For sale by Boatshed Gibraltar.
http://gibraltar.boatshed.com/rival_38-boat-230615.html
Stu
 
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sailorman said:
I think a Cat has many advantages as live aboard @ the expense though of fun sailing, how do you get these these to windward in light airs :)
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My SWMBO would say "at the expense of tippy sailing". :)

Can't say I've ever worried about the windward sailing. You might sail 5 or 10 degrees further off ..... but you're sailing faster so it all balances out. :encouragement:

Richard
 
While we could all find faults (and with most boats), it is nice to see that some time and effort has been put into presenting the boat for sale. I wish them well for a speedy sale.

Yoda
 
RichardS said:
My SWMBO would say "at the expense of tippy sailing". :)

Can't say I've ever worried about the windward sailing. You might sail 5 or 10 degrees further off ..... but you're sailing faster so it all balances out. :encouragement:

Not in my experience. Owned two cats. One with boards and one without. A good mono will be 15 degrees closer to wind in a bumpy sea. Cats look like they point high but they have considerable leeway if they are the modern high sided variety.
Here in the Caribbean there are a lot of cats. We have had ample opportunity to compare mono and cat performance to windward. Give me a Outremer 51 and I will concede good windward performance! They are light and have daggerboards. A world of difference to most cruising cats
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geem said:
Not in my experience. Owned two cats. One with boards and one without. A good mono will be 15 degrees closer to wind in a bumpy sea. Cats look like they point high but they have considerable leeway if they are the modern high sided variety.
Here in the Caribbean there are a lot of cats. We have had ample opportunity to compare mono and cat performance to windward. Give me a Outremer 51 and I will concede good windward performance! They are light and have daggerboards. A world of difference to most cruising cats
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As I said, it doesn't cause me any concern as we sail quite happily down to 30 degrees apparent. If a mono sails at 15 degrees then so be it. It's a small cat disadvantage compared with everything else. :)

Richard
 
Cloona said:
i would love to own that boat ....
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Two points to consider:

  1. Review why the Chandlers decided a Rival 38 was not a suitable design for them any more.
  3. Have a detailed look at the brokerage photos, hardly any sign of equipment renewals in 30 years, it is a very tired example with worn teak decks.
 
jonjo5 said:
Two points to consider:

  1. Review why the Chandlers decided a Rival 38 was not a suitable design for them any more.
  3. Have a detailed look at the brokerage photos, hardly any sign of equipment renewals in 30 years, it is a very tired example with worn teak decks.
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Just to clarify things.

The Rival 38 in La Linea is not the Chandler's Lynn Rival.

Paul & Rachel have done a lot of work on LR since their 'adventure'.

New teak decks, engine overhaul, refrigeration, Awlgrip topsides, coppercoat etc etc.

I think the bullet hole was in the boom which has since been replaced.

Nothing wrong with LR as a cruising boat - just a change of cruising style that's all.
 
RichardS said:
As I said, it doesn't cause me any concern as we sail quite happily down to 30 degrees apparent. If a mono sails at 15 degrees then so be it. It's a small cat disadvantage compared with everything else. :)

Richard
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Is that what you see on your wind instrument or actually achieve. Look at tacking angles on the chart plotter. They are more reresentitivd of actual angle
 
Tradewinds said:
Just to clarify things.

The Rival 38 in La Linea is not the Chandler's Lynn Rival.

Paul & Rachel have done a lot of work on LR since their 'adventure'.
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Did Lynn Rival survive unscathed from the clutches of the Royal Navy? Some clots on the RFA hoicked her off ship in Portland using very short strops and no spreader frame.
 
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