Risks due to loss of strength in old age

Evening all.

Whilst one respects those who swear by their own particular flavour of snake oil and monkey glands I'm with young Rivona ( post #9) on this one. The sheer desire to live and a love of life counts for the greater part. Add in the love of a good woman/man/ hound/whatever if you will and the job's a good'un..

Sure I'd tip the hat to regular modest exercise - mine's cycling. If you can find the time and weather for several rides amounting to, say, 150kms a week the benefit to core and upper body strength is more than one might imagine.

The thing I found startling was the sheer speed at which the loss of sheer strength happened - at all different ages for different folks sure but it happened to me , just into my sixties it was disconcertingly abrupt to say the least. And things that break or tear tend to stay that way for what seems like forever. Meh!

All that said fred drift/ new thread on desirable attributes features in a boat to see one safely through the sixties and seventies and beyond might have some mileage in it. I for one will avoid abrupt companionway steps, overly narrow sidedecks, things happening at a double digit rate of knots and any de-anchoring manoeuvres that are not accompanied by Monsieur Joule and his merry band of amps. I'm all to concious that the supply of willing and pliant nephews and nieces and their various muses is finite.

My name is David and I'm thinking of a motorsailer. There! I've said it…….

Out of the bally cold and damp, tea and a packet of hobnobs to hand.
(Ducks behind parapet)
 
Good to see you are drinking tea!! (Lots of flavonoids) unlike Paul who is drinking Beamish (a whole lot of free radicals)!

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Things change a lot in medical research so it is important to keep up-to-date.

If you do a google on "Blood pressure guidelines"or "anti-ageing" you will get links to hundreds and hundreds of articles. The problem is most of the articles will be have been uploaded onto the Internet some yeasr ago and in this field that means out-of-date.

So once you have done a search on (say) "anti-ageing" click on "search tools" and then on "any time" then click on "past year" then click the search button again. That way you'll get only the latest/relevant articles uploaded in the past year.

Also keep in mind that no-one keeps a check on the accuracy of the information uploaded on to the Internet so always have a look at the source to see if it is credible.
 
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Things change a lot in medical research so it is important to keep up-to-date.

If you do a google on "Blood pressure guidelines"or "anti-ageing" you will get links to hundreds and hundreds of articles. The problem is most of the articles will be have been uploaded onto the Internet over one ago and in this field that means out-of-date.

So once you have done a search on (say) "anti-ageing" click on "search tools" and then on "any time" then click on "past year" then click the search button again. That way you'll get only the latest/relevant articles uploaded in the past year.

Also keep in mind that no-one keeps a check on the accuracy of the information uploaded on to the Internet so always have a look at the source to see if it is credible.
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Who is to say that this year's research findings and advice are any better than last years conflicting findings and advice? It seems to me that living and eating in a vaguely sensible manner along with enjoying your life are the keys. I tried some of the 'biological age' tests, the answers ranged from 44 to 76 (I'm actually 64). I'll go with the 44 and carry on doing what I do. There are very many other things to stress about if you need the stress.
 
"It seems to me that living and eating in a vaguely sensible manner along with enjoying your life are the keys"

I think eating in a sensible manner would be preferable.

I shared a 1920's mansion with my boss in Namibia in 2007. When I opened the fridge there was nothing there. I said to him "What are you eating?"and he told me he "normally has cheese on toast or something". I gave him a lecture about the need to eat fruit/veges everyday and told him he must have roughage (cereal) everyday as well to clean out his intestines. I pleaded with him and offered to share my muesli................. In 2010 I attended his funeral (bowel cancer).

When I was working two mates invited me to join them for an evening meal before we started our evening stints. I was horrified to see their plates as it was absolutely impossible to get anymore food on them. I asked for just half a serve. They were both very much overweight and neither exercised. I attended Russell's funeral a couple of years later (Cancer of the esophagus which is associated with obesity)

I think you can eat well and enjoy life (they are not mutually exclusive) as you seem to imply.

And who is stressing!!
 
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When I was working two mates invited me to join them for an evening meal before we started our evening stints. I was horrified to see their plates as it was absolutely impossible to get anymore food on them. I asked for just half a serve. They were both very much overweight and neither exercised. I attended Russell's funeral a couple of years later (Cancer of the esophagus which is associated with obesity)


Being obese has NOTHING to do with cancer of the esophagus. I have lost two close and dear friends with that dreaded cancer and both were fit and healthy young men 50yrs and 65yrs. If you have the cancer gene thats it. However obesity is one of the major things to provoke the cancer gene. Where ever it may be lurking in the body. We are all born with it.
 
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All thabove are so out of date. However all goverment bodies are now ganging up and saying that obesity is the cause of every known disease to man!!!!

However having said that. I firmly believe that obesity is a factor that does so much damage to the body.
 
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All thabove are so out of date. However all goverment bodies are now ganging up and saying that obesity is the cause of every known disease to man!!!! []

However having said that. I firmly believe that obesity is a factor that does so much damage to the body.
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I shall not be replying anymore as it is so obvious that you have FIXED the dates to the above. I also believe that you are becoming self oppinionated.

It was originaly good to discuss the aging process and loss of upper body strength.
 
My main concern was lack of upper body strength when attempting to transferr my new 4 stroke outboard from the boat to the dinghy so I have built a small davit which has worked very well. Makes the entire operation far safer.
 
That is interesting: is it strong enough top lift a person out of the water onto the deck as well?

Also is it possible to use the mizzen boom as crane (maybe hooked up to the sheet winch)?
 
coopec said:
That is interesting: is it strong enough top lift a person out of the water onto the deck as well?

Also is it possible to use the mizzen boom as crane (maybe hooked up to the sheet winch)?
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I did a quick test lift with a 56 lb weight and it was fine but it could not support an adult as the SSS tubing is only 25 mm heavy wall spec.
 
Sandro said:
Hidrozoan #82

+1
you beat me on the time

Sandro
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:) In fairness to daviddb, Joule does sound as if he might be French. But a wonderful Physics teacher nearly half a century ago told me about his work on the mechanical equivalent of heat in his father's Manchester brewery (and pronounced his name 'Jowl' too, though whether correctly or not I can't say). But Joule's family may perhaps have had French origins - and we do have to admit the 'amps' are French! Anyway, back to an interesting (and at my age, regrettably very relevant) thread ...
 
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